Tozerman's Red 2.7

[sevenfourate]

3 hours ago, Tozerman said:

I have used Chris & Pete at CG many times in the past with my previous S2000, always got the car absolutely pin sharp.

Alas the budget wont quite run to a visit there this spring due to my large service bill. My indy charges £150 whereas last time I went to CG it was £360 !! I know you get what you pay for but for the time being my indy will be just right.

I will take it to CG though at some point in the future..

 

I had mine done on a Hunter Hawkeye early in my ownership (Bone stock set up). Perhaps now wished i'd have researched "R" settings: or something a little more aggressive. Oh well; next time.

 

Good luck Tony. Let us know your thoughts when you do......

Edited May 17, 2020 by sevenfourate

[Lennym1984]

On 17/05/2020 at 13:12, sevenfourate said:

 

I had mine done on a Hunter Hawkeye early in my ownership (Bone stock set up). Perhaps now wished i'd have researched "R" settings: or something a little more aggressive. Oh well; next time.

 

Good luck Tony. Let us know your thoughts when you do......

 

I ran my old Porsche on a standard geo and it was absolutely fine on both road and track so I wouldn't feel too concerned about "missing out" on a more aggresive setting. On track you do end up wearing the shoulders really badly with a stock geo but from a handling perspective I never felt it was lacking (I had M030 and it felt very neutral or even a bit oversteer biased)

 

I think you may struggle to get R settings on a standard (height) Cayman anyway. The front might be doable but the rear may not. I think the R settings on the rear are a bit too conservative (camber wise) for a normal Cayman anyway. It feels like it would provoke understeer without a lot more front camber (or a stiffer ARB like the "R") to balance it out

[sevenfourate]

40 minutes ago, Lennym1984 said:

 

I ran my old Porsche on a standard geo and it was absolutely fine on both road and track so I wouldn't feel too concerned about "missing out" on a more aggresive setting. On track you do end up wearing the shoulders really badly with a stock geo but from a handling perspective I never felt it was lacking (I had M030 and it felt very neutral or even a bit oversteer biased)

 

I think you may struggle to get R settings on a standard (height) Cayman anyway. The front might be doable but the rear may not. I think the R settings on the rear are a bit too conservative (camber wise) for a normal Cayman anyway. It feels like it would provoke understeer without a lot more front camber (or a stiffer ARB like the "R") to balance it out

 

MUCH appreciated. And thanks for the info via PM too. Fab stuff. **Noted !!!

[Tozerman]

Passed the MOT today with flying colours, no advisories

Not so good news was the fact that they would only do the geo to standard settings  I had to settle for this as I new it was out and it needed doing.  Next spring I will definitely take her to see Chris at Centre Gravity.

With all this amazing hot weather the aircon had decided it doesn't want to play, sod's fooking law. The indie diagnosed the condensers need changing.  This is a common issue so I wasn't surprised.

I went straight on the Design 911 website and ordered a full kit of 2 condenser's, I x dryer and all the o rings needed. https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod132771/Air-Conditioning--Air-Con--Radiator-Condenser-Kit-Porsche-996---987---987C---997/

 

I will fit this myself, seems a straightforward job, I will remove the front bumper tomorrow ready for when the parts arrive.  will try and take some pics to post

 

I have not spent so much money on a car for many years now.  With early retirement looming in a year or two if the expenditure doesn't decrease I may have to think about moving on when the retirement plans start to come to fruition  trust me though this will be the last resort..

 

Cheers.....Tony..

[Lennym1984]

19 hours ago, Tozerman said:

Passed the MOT today with flying colours, no advisories

Not so good news was the fact that they would only do the geo to standard settings  I had to settle for this as I new it was out and it needed doing.  Next spring I will definitely take her to see Chris at Centre Gravity.

With all this amazing hot weather the aircon had decided it doesn't want to play, sod's fooking law. The indie diagnosed the condensers need changing.  This is a common issue so I wasn't surprised.

I went straight on the Design 911 website and ordered a full kit of 2 condenser's, I x dryer and all the o rings needed. https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod132771/Air-Conditioning--Air-Con--Radiator-Condenser-Kit-Porsche-996---987---987C---997/

 

I will fit this myself, seems a straightforward job, I will remove the front bumper tomorrow ready for when the parts arrive.  will try and take some pics to post

 

I have not spent so much money on a car for many years now.  With early retirement looming in a year or two if the expenditure doesn't decrease I may have to think about moving on when the retirement plans start to come to fruition  trust me though this will be the last resort..

 

Cheers.....Tony..

 

Yeah loads of places only want to do the standard settings (despite it really being no harder to do custom settings). I've just recently been putting together my own alignment rig (similar to the "Smart Strings" system) so that I can do my own setups from now on.

 

If it isn't too late, you can get the condensors, dryers and O-rings from ebay at around £100 all in. I did it on my 986 and it took me a few hours at most (probably half of that was just getting the bumper on and off). Annoyingly the A/C on my car has also just packed in so I may well be doing it again!

 

Just a word of warning, make sure that your system is fully emptied before taking things apart.

[Tozerman]

Hi Lenny. 

Got the front bumper off easy enough (I have done it before) 

I though the system would be empty as it wasn't working at all, however when I cracked a union a little bit of gas came  out, guess there must have been some left 🤔

When you say make the system is empty before taking things apart, why is that, what would happen? 

[Lennym1984]

22 minutes ago, Tozerman said:

Hi Lenny. 

Got the front bumper off easy enough (I have done it before) 

I though the system would be empty as it wasn't working at all, however when I cracked a union a little bit of gas came  out, guess there must have been some left 🤔

When you say make the system is empty before taking things apart, why is that, what would happen? 

It can hold quite a lot of pressure if it isn't fully empty and the gas can cause burns. If you've cracked a union and all is okay, I'd say that you're good to go

[Tozerman]

2 hours ago, Lennym1984 said:

It can hold quite a lot of pressure if it isn't fully empty and the gas can cause burns. If you've cracked a union and all is okay, I'd say that you're good to go

Nice to hear cheers mate. 👍

[Tozerman]

The new condensers arrived last week.  So over the previous weekend it was time to fir them.

 

First thing to do is remover the front bumper.

 

Then remove the radiator cowls to reveal the condensers..

As you can see there are damp patches on them, classic sign of leaking.

 

Anyway fitted the news ones..

 and also fitted a new dryer..

This was a bit fiddly but not too bad.

 

Then had it pressure tested and regassed.

The chap who did it is well versed with Porsches, whilst it was filling he went to the OS rear wheel arch with his UV light and said there is some historical leaking on one of the rear AC pipes

His suggestion was that is was an almost imperceptible leak was to leave it alone.  I decided to ignore this advice and wrapped the offending pipes with some self amalgamating tape. this should help to seal any leak that was there (if it still is)

 

I purchased a UV torch from Amazon this will enable me to keep tabs on any future leaks as it highlights the yellow UV dye that he put in the system.

 

I now have AC that is ice cold, hopefully that should be it for a while.

 

Thanks for ready and take care..

 

Cheers.....Tony..

 

 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Tozerman

[Ben]

14 minutes ago, Tozerman said:

The new condensers arrived last week.  So over the previous weekend it was time to fir them.

 

First thing to do is remover the front bumper.

 

Then remove the radiator cowls to reveal the condensers..

As you can see there are damp patches on them, classic sign of leaking.

 

Anyway fitted the news ones..

 and also fitted a new dryer..

This was a bit fiddly but not too bad.

 

Then had it pressure tested and regassed.

The chap who did it is well versed with Porsches, whilst it was filling he went to the OS rear wheel arch with his UV light and said there is some historical leaking on one of the rear AC pipes

His suggestion was that is was an almost imperceptible leak was to leave it alone.  I decided to ignore this advice and wrapped the offending pipes with some self amalgamating tape. this should help to seal any leak that was there (if it still is)

 

I purchased a UV torch from Amazon this will enable me to keep tabs on any future leaks as it highlights the yellow UV dye that he put in the system.

 

I now have AC that is ice cold, hopefully that should be it for a while.

 

Thanks for ready and take care..

 

Cheers.....Tony..

 

 

Thanks for the write up Tony, good to know whats involved.  My aircon is playing up at the mo, hoping its just a re-gas as the condensers were replaced about 5 years ago...  

[Tozerman]

The ac bloke said an aircon system should never need regasing 🤔 if it does then its because it is leaking out somewhere, sorry... 

[sevenfourate]

3 hours ago, Ben said:

Thanks for the write up Tony, good to know whats involved.  My aircon is playing up at the mo, hoping its just a re-gas as the condensers were replaced about 5 years ago...  

 

In my experience - on many cars it's often the joint where the 'union' is crimped onto the flexible hose where it leaks (This may not specifically relate to Porsches - but is where you inevitably get some movement / flex). Running your Air-con every two weeks [maximum] for 10 mins - to lubricate those joints - will help longevity of your 'gas'  no end......

[Tozerman]

43 minutes ago, sevenfourate said:

 

In my experience - on many cars it's often the joint where the 'union' is crimped onto the flexible hose where it leaks (This may not specifically relate to Porsches - but is where you inevitably get some movement / flex). Running your Air-con every two weeks [maximum] for 10 mins - to lubricate those joints - will help longevity of your 'gas'  no end......

Personally I have the ac on permanently, summer and winter... 

[GlosRich]

Great write up, a job I'm gonna have to do soon, as one of my condensors has a damp patch.

 

I'm gonna get the gas and oil sucked out first by my specialist, (the re-charging machines do that also), and then change the parts myself.

[Tozerman]

I was checking my cars history the other day and noticed that the aux belt was last changed in 2013 ! so I thought I would  have a look myself and see what it is like now.

Removed the trim behind the seats to reveal thgis..

 

Then removed this cover and what I saw did surprise me rather..

 

Not too sure how much you can see but if you look closely there are several splits in the groves and on one section (see image directly above) it was split all the way across, this would not have taken much to finish it off I don't think.

 

Any way £21 later got me a gates PK2115 from my local factors.

Removal of the old one is dead easy, however fitting the new one was quite tricky as it is a very snug fit. with the tensioner at the end of its travel the new belt only just managed to slide on to the last pulley.

 

 

A relatively straightforward job, although the gap behind the seats where you need to be is small and uncomfortable.

 

My advice if you are unsure of your aux belt history, check it yourself or get it checked as what you see might surprise you...Good luck..

Tony..

[sevenfourate]

On 27/04/2020 at 16:24, Tozerman said:

Been meaning to update this thread for a while now.  Truth is I am working 12 hour days (key worker) and when I was off I was too busy sitting in the sun with a beer

 

The car was due a minor service this spring and I wanted it done before my yearly trip to the Nürburgring !!

 

I got the car booked in for the end of March with Cavendish Porsche of Long Eaton Notts. I also got them to price me for fitting a GT3 master cylinder.

I have always hated the brake pedal feel on my car,  in my opinion it is yet another piss poor design by Porsche (I know this is a common opinion).  One was sourced o line for a bargain price of £90 delivered

The garage has the PIWIS computer so I was happy they could do the job correctly.

 

However being a tight sod I thought I would do it my self and save some money.  I mean what could possibly go wrong ?

I thought that as long as I kept the ABS unit full of fluid and did not allow it to empty I would be ok to simply reverse bleed form the Calipers and therefore push the fluid upwards and fill the master cylinder that way.

 

Everything was ready to start

 

 

Old one being removed

 

New one fitted

 

All bled through and ready to test

 

So moment of truth arrived, pumped the pedal and got it rock hard to test the servo seal, all was ok..

Started the engine and tentatively pressed the brake pedal ready to relish in the rock hard pedal.  What did I get ?  yep you've guessed it the pedal went straight to the floor

 

I removed the master cylinder, checked everything and then refitted it a bled the bloody system again. Did I get a firm pedal ?  did I hell

 

I rang the specialist and explained that I am a muppet and could they help me, "of course" they said. I then had to tow the car there (about 15 miles) which was unpleasant.

 

I was due to collect the car after having the service done, bleed the brake system properly and change the coolant and the 2 front lower hoses (the upper ones had already been done by the supplying dealer)

Of course what happened ? the lockdown that's what

 

I had images of my poor car being stranded at the garage unable to collect her.

I am pleased to say they they opened the day after simply to finish my car and one other before they closed.

 

10/10 to Cavendish Porsche for good customer service

 

I went to collect it like an excited schoolboy. Paid the £800 bill and went on my merry way.

 

This was the first time I could drive it since I SORN'D it last November.

 

The transformation was incredible, the pedal is much much firmer with very little pedal travel before the brakes bite, just what I wanted

This is how the car should have been made in my opinion,  the extra confidence it gives is enormous.

Yes the pedal requires a bit more effort but it is still very easy to modulate and it gives good feel.

 

Thank you for reading.

 

Cheers.....Tony..

 

 

Tony,

 

Do you have a link to the GT3 Master cylinder you purchased please ?

 

**Wanting to purchase the TRW one ideally - but concerned some maybe (?) don't come with provision for the brake switch......

 

**Still really happy with the swap ??

 

Thanks - Syer.

 

 

[Andrea]

3 hours ago, sevenfourate said:

 

Tony,

 

Do you have a link to the GT3 Master cylinder you purchased please ?

 

**Wanting to purchase the TRW one ideally - but concerned some maybe (?) don't come with provision for the brake switch......

 

**Still really happy with the swap ??

 

Thanks - Syer.

 

 

It’s on Autodoc.co.uk for around £76 

[Tozerman]

That's exactly where I got mine from. On my mobile at present and don't know how to do links 😁 should be an easy find TBH... 

[sevenfourate]

6 minutes ago, Tozerman said:

That's exactly where I got mine from. On my mobile at present and don't know how to do links 😁 should be an easy find TBH... 

 

Already purchased for Autodoc this am. Got impatient you hadn't answered in 3 milliseconds 😂

 

Thanks guys !

[Andrea]

Also have you considered which oil to go with? RBF660 is a good one....