Julian987 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 07/02/2022 at 22:44, kman said: Looks very nice - but unfortunately my budget is about £10k short… 😬 £20K boom! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202132505944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_jdmr Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) A 2.9 cayman r. Hmmmm! Stiĺl a nice car, hopefully a typo Edited February 14, 2022 by Neil_jdmr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andyoz Posted February 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Julian987 said: £20K boom! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202132505944 Ah, the super rare Cayman R 2.9 edition... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spykee Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 How are you getting on with the search? If you are still considering a 987.1 it is possible to find a decent 3.4 but you'll have to wait. When I bought mine 6yrs ago it took me about 4 months to find. It's registered 18/03/06, no Hartech rebuild though. If the engine number is above 6150475 then it has the larger, non-serviceable IMS bearing so you have nothing to worry about. Mine starts 675XXXX for a reference point of manufacturing date. Make sure you look for: Replaced coolant crossover pipes No squeaks from suspension components or steering wheel vibration between 70-80mph. Condition of the condensers - any oil on the surfaces when you look inside the bumper means they're shot. Receipt for hard lines to the brake callipers replaced. At that age you'd expect it to have had a new water pump as well at some point. If not it'll need doing. Age of the tyres if its a low miler for its age. They usually go off before they're worn out (speaking from my own experience). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 19/02/2022 at 12:05, Spykee said: How are you getting on with the search? If you are still considering a 987.1 it is possible to find a decent 3.4 but you'll have to wait. When I bought mine 6yrs ago it took me about 4 months to find. It's registered 18/03/06, no Hartech rebuild though. If the engine number is above 6150475 then it has the larger, non-serviceable IMS bearing so you have nothing to worry about. Mine starts 675XXXX for a reference point of manufacturing date. Make sure you look for: Replaced coolant crossover pipes No squeaks from suspension components or steering wheel vibration between 70-80mph. Condition of the condensers - any oil on the surfaces when you look inside the bumper means they're shot. Receipt for hard lines to the brake callipers replaced. At that age you'd expect it to have had a new water pump as well at some point. If not it'll need doing. Age of the tyres if its a low miler for its age. They usually go off before they're worn out (speaking from my own experience). Thanks for all the tips Spykee - genuinely really helpful to a Cayman newbie. I slightly abandoned this thread as I've been on holiday the last week or so - but the search is still ongoing... I find myself swinging back and forth on the Gen 1 S debate. I really would love to go for an S, but Gen 2 is out of my price range, and the lottery of bore scoring on a Gen 1 S is slightly terrifying. It's the threat of a £10k bill out of the blue that is a bit of a worry. I've not yet found a base 987.2 in budget. Well, I should clarify - I've not yet found a tidy Aqua Blue or Guards Red 987.2 in budget. As ridiculous as it might be, I really do love how the 987 looks in Cobalt Blue/Aqua Blue or Guards Red - and seeing as that's definitely one of the things I can't change about the car it's definitely playing a part in my search. I found a listing for really nice 987 S in Cobalt Blue, which ticks pretty much all the boxes - but it's a bit on the pricey side for a Gen 1 (£18k) AND because it's a Gen 1 S I've still got concerns about bore scoring etc. I've started thinking about considering a 2.7 Gen 1. It won't have the outright straight line speed of the S, but will still have an amazing soundtrack and (as far as I know) the 2.7 doesn't have any risk of bore scoring.... So basically I'm still non the wiser on which version to go for... Ideal world would be a 987.2 in Aqua Blue/Guards Red for £18k or less. But that doesn't feel massively realistic at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chocks Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 If you don’t mind a black car, there’s a 987.2 for £18.5 in Doncaster on Facebook marketplace. 65000 miles, manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 19/02/2022 at 12:05, Spykee said: How are you getting on with the search? If you are still considering a 987.1 it is possible to find a decent 3.4 but you'll have to wait. When I bought mine 6yrs ago it took me about 4 months to find. It's registered 18/03/06, no Hartech rebuild though. If the engine number is above 6150475 then it has the larger, non-serviceable IMS bearing so you have nothing to worry about. Mine starts 675XXXX for a reference point of manufacturing date. Make sure you look for: Replaced coolant crossover pipes No squeaks from suspension components or steering wheel vibration between 70-80mph. Condition of the condensers - any oil on the surfaces when you look inside the bumper means they're shot. Receipt for hard lines to the brake callipers replaced. At that age you'd expect it to have had a new water pump as well at some point. If not it'll need doing. Age of the tyres if its a low miler for its age. They usually go off before they're worn out (speaking from my own experience). Whats the heads up re the steering wheel vibration at 70 -80mph? My 987.2 used to have that, replaced coffin arms, tuning forks, wheels rebalanced etc. In th end I just drove everywhere at 90mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chocks Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, andygo said: Whats the heads up re the steering wheel vibration at 70 -80mph? My 987.2 used to have that, replaced coffin arms, tuning forks, wheels rebalanced etc. In th end I just drove everywhere at 90mph. there’s wheel balancing and wheel balancing. I had vibration on my Boxster after last set of tyres fitted. Rebalance by tyre fitters but still a vibration. Took car to a specialist alignment place with a Hunter rig and sorted. Worth a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spykee Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, andygo said: Whats the heads up re the steering wheel vibration at 70 -80mph? My 987.2 used to have that, replaced coffin arms, tuning forks, wheels rebalanced etc. In th end I just drove everywhere at 90mph. Its a knackered top mount that causes it. I would have replaced all of those components too but I'd not long done them. I couldn't for the life of me figure it out and swore blind it was my non hub-centric wheel spacers on the front...but it was picked up by my indy garage and since it was changed its been perfect! I used to always drive just below 70 or above 85 too 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spykee Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, kman said: Thanks for all the tips Spykee - genuinely really helpful to a Cayman newbie. I slightly abandoned this thread as I've been on holiday the last week or so - but the search is still ongoing... I find myself swinging back and forth on the Gen 1 S debate. I really would love to go for an S, but Gen 2 is out of my price range, and the lottery of bore scoring on a Gen 1 S is slightly terrifying. It's the threat of a £10k bill out of the blue that is a bit of a worry. I've not yet found a base 987.2 in budget. Well, I should clarify - I've not yet found a tidy Aqua Blue or Guards Red 987.2 in budget. As ridiculous as it might be, I really do love how the 987 looks in Cobalt Blue/Aqua Blue or Guards Red - and seeing as that's definitely one of the things I can't change about the car it's definitely playing a part in my search. I found a listing for really nice 987 S in Cobalt Blue, which ticks pretty much all the boxes - but it's a bit on the pricey side for a Gen 1 (£18k) AND because it's a Gen 1 S I've still got concerns about bore scoring etc. I've started thinking about considering a 2.7 Gen 1. It won't have the outright straight line speed of the S, but will still have an amazing soundtrack and (as far as I know) the 2.7 doesn't have any risk of bore scoring.... So basically I'm still non the wiser on which version to go for... Ideal world would be a 987.2 in Aqua Blue/Guards Red for £18k or less. But that doesn't feel massively realistic at the moment. You're welcome! I've just spotted you're in Bristol so just over the bridge about 40 mins from me, can always meet up for a chat at some point if you like and you can have a look at my Gen1...although its FAR from standard! I wonder how much of a lottery it is because there are plenty of cars out there on the original engine with over 160k on the clock, then others that have suffered sub 100k...it could be to do with maintenance schedules, driving style etc etc this list goes on. Ask the right questions and get a PPI including a borescope done though and I'd say you have nothing to worry about. I have a 3.4S on a 2006 plate, it does use a little bit of oil but I only drive it as a weekend toy so it does get driven quite hard and will use more oil under those conditions. I've had a recent bore scope and its come back with it being fine. The 2.7 doesn't suffer from bore scoring but at 245hp it will depends what you've come from as to whether that will be enough. The handling and chassis will still be amazing but it's whether it has enough grunt for you. At the moment the .2 is fetching strong money so you might struggle at £18k as trade in prices are also much higher than book value at the moment. I also wonder whether used prices will come down at all or continue to go up with the onslaught of the EV directives. But then again all it'll take over the next 18m is for people to start feeling the cost of living squeeze and inflationary pressure and luxuries like sports cars in the 987 price bracket will be one of the easiest things to let go to free up some cash. It all depends whether you want to wait and risk it or not, its going to be much more of a lottery at the moment than it ever has been. Whether you end up going for a Gen1 or 2 the Aqua and Guards one's are more difficult to find but they are about. I wanted a white one but they're a bit of a unicorn with the .1 and I ended up deciding as long as its not black, the history of the car, paperwork it has and overall condition and spec was much better to focus on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I had a borescope done on my high mileage (80k +) 987.1 by Autofarm. All was reported perfect, but the car still used oil. I think it was because the bores had become ovalised which can give the same symptoms, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987croc Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I had an Aqua blue Gen 2 2.9 Cayman and have to say it did look good but Aqua is pretty rare. I wouldn’t discount the 2.9 Gen 2 or 2.7 Gen 1. Added bonus of lower VED and the 6 cylinder still sounds good. There is currently a 2.7 Gen 1 on collecting cars with an engine rebuild in 2018 with new clutch and ims at same time- looks pretty good and currently at a reasonable price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hey all, So I found a 987.1 Cayman S which ticked all the right boxes. I was pushing my budget a bit - £15k was the wife imposed limit, but managed to convince her to allow me to go up a little bit more than that for this car as it's from a reputable specialist, who's been brilliant with my questions throughout and offered up a lot of information about the car, including a bore scope for my own piece of mind. However, just received the results of the bore scope, and there is a tiny tiny bit of scoring (10-15mm) in cylinder 6... I really don't know if this is a non issue or something that can grow to become a much bigger engine rebuild type problem. Posted a new thread here. Would really love to get people's thoughts on this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987croc Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 The 987.1 2.7 on collecting cars went for £13,780 inc buyers 6% premium. Probably needed coolant pipes and condensers plus discs pads and suspension refresh at some early point. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-987-cayman?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=alert_v2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, 987croc said: The 987.1 2.7 on collecting cars went for £13,780 inc buyers 6% premium. Probably needed coolant pipes and condensers plus discs pads and suspension refresh at some early point. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-987-cayman?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=alert_v2 Yes, was keeping an eye on that one! Still working things through my head in terms of 3.4 vs 2.7 (and in particular the 3.4 I have been very close to buying pre bore scope scare...) Still haven't figured out what I'm going to do, and I might be getting scared for no good reason. But maybe you're right that I shouldn't discount the 2.7 - it would certainly fit the budget. Would love an S, but maybe I'm underestimating the fun factor of the base 987.1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginginho Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I wouldn't personally buy one that I knew had some scoring, there are plenty around that won't have. You may just have to be patient , especially for the right colour. That said it will be interesting to see where prices head once the warmer months arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Hi You will search forever looking for a perfect 15 year old car.🙁 Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_porsche_driver Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Mine's for sale if you're still looking... 987 Cayman S, 2006, guards red, 66500 miles, tan interior, receipts for all the important work (coolant crossovers, brake lines, IMS checked and re-sealed, suspension, water pump, low temp thermostat and more). It's listed on here and on autotrader at £17k, would negotiate with a COC member. Email jkb19893@googlemail.com if interested. South Hertfordshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_porsche_driver Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Oh and it's got a proper full service history, OPC and specialist, correct order, receipts, plus proof of annual oil changes in my ownership 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windymiller Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Somebody please buy his car 👆 (so it’s not still around when I come to sell mine later in the year 😉😁👍🏻) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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