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Brexit - Convince me


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I'm so on the fence about whether to vote to leave or stay.  I feel I don't have the information I need to make a sure decision and don't really want to hang my hat on one or two single reasons (like immigration, tax etc) 

 

Help! 

 

(Do I get to keep the Cayman if we leave?)

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This may not help you mate, but I'm a firm 'Leave' and the reason why is that nobody has been able to demonstrate any tangible benefit of being in the EU, but some control over our own destiny by leaving is a big plus for me. 

 

#Brexit

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I watched a very convincing speech earlier by Hannan (31m13s), very persuasive argument for leaving if you're after some direction... 

 

I'm in the 'Leave' camp anyway, but each person needs to make their own calculated reasons for making a decision and not fall into the trap of letting emotions cloud their judgement. 

 

 

 

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What confuses me is most people I speak to are in the 'Leave' camp, but the polls and the bookies are favouring 'stay' - Reuters thinks that only 18% will vote leave!? 

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I'm voting Leave - the more I hear from the stay campaign the more I thinks it's just typical political bulls**t whereas the leave campaign seems to have more substance to its reasons for leaving.  

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I'm leaning towards voting to remain in the EU

The reason - the French, German, Spanish, Italians etc .. they have the same beliefs as us, share similar aspirations, a similar moral code .. we should be able to work together very well.

 

Politicians come and go, but the fundamental values and morals of the European peoples will remain and they are not incompatible with ours

 

Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production

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On 6/3/2016 at 18:26, Brian said:

 

Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production

 

So that's your real reason isn't it ? :)

 

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On 3 June 2016 at 18:26, Brian said:

I'm leaning towards voting to remain in the EU

The reason - the French, German, Spanish, Italians etc .. they have the same beliefs as us, share similar aspirations, a similar moral code .. we should be able to work together very well.

 

Politicians come and go, but the fundamental values and morals of the European peoples will remain and they are not incompatible with ours

 

Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production

 

The French!?

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On 6 June 2016 at 21:27, DJMC said:

 

The French!?

 

They want a referendum now too apparently, now they've realised they're also a net contributor to the EU purse.  

 

Only a a few days left now....:sSW_darthvader:

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Did you watch the debate last night? How cool were Boris and his team against the flustered and unprepared Remain camp.

 

The mayor of London chappie, forget his name, said, amongst other rubbish, "...we are the 5th largest economy in Britain." How did he get voted in!?

 

Now, which way shall I vote? Durrrrr.....

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Man-up Phil, the revolution has happened, the majority has spoken and we now hold all the aces.  We can choose now whether to leave the EU or do a deal with the muppets that suits us.  

 

It's going to be an interesting few weeks/months to see how this unfolds.  

 

The scaremongering is still rife but I advise everybody to do their own research and don't believe anything you read in the press.  The markets knee-jerked yesterday and then recovered and relatively well albeit not conpletely, but it sure isn't the carnage the press makes it out to be. The bullcrap about out rating being 'downgraded' is also not that bad, we're just on a negative outlook which is not a pre-cursor to a ratings cut as some would have you believe.  

 

The battle of wills has commenced :sSW_darthvader:

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