987Monkey Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I'm so on the fence about whether to vote to leave or stay. I feel I don't have the information I need to make a sure decision and don't really want to hang my hat on one or two single reasons (like immigration, tax etc) Help! (Do I get to keep the Cayman if we leave?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGTS Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 This may not help you mate, but I'm a firm 'Leave' and the reason why is that nobody has been able to demonstrate any tangible benefit of being in the EU, but some control over our own destiny by leaving is a big plus for me. #Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedot Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I'm a firm leaver as well for the reason you describe above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Posted May 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 5, 2016 I watched a very convincing speech earlier by Hannan (31m13s), very persuasive argument for leaving if you're after some direction... I'm in the 'Leave' camp anyway, but each person needs to make their own calculated reasons for making a decision and not fall into the trap of letting emotions cloud their judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJMC Posted May 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2016 Watched Boris for 5 minutes this morning. I know he's odd (charismatic?) but in that brief time I was further convinced to leave. I read his biography of Churchill a while ago and he is no doubt a very clever chap. When asked about the Queen's comment regarding the recent Chinese state visit, and whether he agreed, he gave a politician's reply but his face gave away his real feelings. I'd far prefer him as Prime Minister than Cameron. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Posted May 25, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2016 What confuses me is most people I speak to are in the 'Leave' camp, but the polls and the bookies are favouring 'stay' - Reuters thinks that only 18% will vote leave!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMC Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Boris v Dave, tonight 9pm Ch4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Beanoir™ Posted May 26, 2016 Founder Share Posted May 26, 2016 We wouldn't have this Steel Industry issue if we hadn't been in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dave Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I'm voting Leave - the more I hear from the stay campaign the more I thinks it's just typical political bulls**t whereas the leave campaign seems to have more substance to its reasons for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMC Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Go to: https://www.brexitthemovie.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I'm leaning towards voting to remain in the EU The reason - the French, German, Spanish, Italians etc .. they have the same beliefs as us, share similar aspirations, a similar moral code .. we should be able to work together very well. Politicians come and go, but the fundamental values and morals of the European peoples will remain and they are not incompatible with ours Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedot Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 On 6/3/2016 at 18:26, Brian said: Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production So that's your real reason isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 hours ago, Bluedot said: So that's your real reason isn't it ? Can you think of a better one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMC Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 On 3 June 2016 at 18:26, Brian said: I'm leaning towards voting to remain in the EU The reason - the French, German, Spanish, Italians etc .. they have the same beliefs as us, share similar aspirations, a similar moral code .. we should be able to work together very well. Politicians come and go, but the fundamental values and morals of the European peoples will remain and they are not incompatible with ours Besides, I might want a new Cayman one day and I don't want the import blocked or heavily taxed to subsidise UK car production The French!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGTS Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 6 June 2016 at 21:27, DJMC said: The French!? They want a referendum now too apparently, now they've realised they're also a net contributor to the EU purse. Only a a few days left now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMC Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Did you watch the debate last night? How cool were Boris and his team against the flustered and unprepared Remain camp. The mayor of London chappie, forget his name, said, amongst other rubbish, "...we are the 5th largest economy in Britain." How did he get voted in!? Now, which way shall I vote? Durrrrr..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilCS Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Does anybody else feel slightly nervous about the future now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Beanoir™ Posted June 25, 2016 Founder Share Posted June 25, 2016 Man-up Phil, the revolution has happened, the majority has spoken and we now hold all the aces. We can choose now whether to leave the EU or do a deal with the muppets that suits us. It's going to be an interesting few weeks/months to see how this unfolds. The scaremongering is still rife but I advise everybody to do their own research and don't believe anything you read in the press. The markets knee-jerked yesterday and then recovered and relatively well albeit not conpletely, but it sure isn't the carnage the press makes it out to be. The bullcrap about out rating being 'downgraded' is also not that bad, we're just on a negative outlook which is not a pre-cursor to a ratings cut as some would have you believe. The battle of wills has commenced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopointnine Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Beanoir said: .....or do a deal with the muppets that suits us. Do you mean negotiating a new deal to stay in the EU? I didn't think that was an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMC Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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