Brexit - Convince me

[DJMC]

 

[Uncle Dave]

14 minutes ago, DJMC said:

 

If only we all thought like that...

[Trickle]

This appeared on my Facebook today, made me chuckle; 

 

Right. Tickle my toes this. We're ALL up s**t creek and we need a paddle. Now, not in three months.

Fellow Remain voters: Enough already. Yes, we're all pissed off but navel gazing ain't gonna help. Not all 17 million Leave voters can possibly be racist northern pensioners without an O level to their name. Maybe they have a point about this quitting the EU thing? Maybe not. Whatever, we are where we are and no amount a whinging is gonna change that. Allegedly we're the intelligent ones, so get your thinking caps on. 

Leave voters. Well done. Good game. We hear you. Now you need to get stuck in to the aftermath and not just piss off back to Wetherspoons. (Just banter, twats!). And the first person to say they "want their country back" gets deported to ******* Gibraltar. OK?

Politicians.

David. Tickle my toes off. Shut the door behind you. Now.

George. You may be a twat but you're our twat. Plus you know the passwords for our Junior Savers account. Get your calculator. Drop the face-like-a-slapped-ass routine. You're on.

Boris. Sorry mate. That photo of you abseiling by your scrotum over the London Olympics while waving a Union Jack can't ever be un-taken. Plus, you'll never be able to appear on Question Time again without some sturdy Glaswegian nurse asking where the Tickle my toes her 350 million quid is. Not only will she have a very good point, she'll be wearing a T shirt that shows you gurning in front of that ******* bus! No captains hat for you I'm afraid. 

Theresa. You're in charge love. Get the biggest shoulder pads you've got. We need Ming The Merciless in drag and you'll scare the s**t out of 'em.

Nicola. Yep. Fair cop. You probably could get us on a technicality, as could London. But we ******* love shortbread. And oil. And to be honest you're probably the best politician we've got, so we need you on side. Sort your lot out and we promise never to mention that Jimmy Krankie thing again (although it is pretty uncanny) and we'll make you a Dame once we're sorted. Bring Ruth Davidson. She kicks ass.

Opposition party. We'll need one. Someone take Jeremy and John back to the British Legion Club where you found them. Take Nigel as well. Give back their sandals, buy them a pint, then go to Heathrow and collect David Milliband. Tickle my toes it. Lets gets Ed Balls as well. He keeps George on his toes. I think he works on the lottery kiosk at Morrisons now?

Oh. And Mark Carney. Give him a knighthood and tell him to keep that s**t coming. We definitely need more of that good s**t!

Everyone set? Right. Hold the Easyjet. We're going to Brussels and this ain't no hen party.

[twopointnine]

[MarkGTS]

"Tickle my toes"???

[987Monkey]

On 27 June 2016 at 09:10, MarkGTS said:

"Tickle my toes"???

 

I think it's the forum replacing swear words 

[twopointnine]

6 minutes ago, 987Monkey said:

 

I think it's the forum replacing swear words 

 

I didn't know that, maybe someone should tell Adele, Sebastian Vettel, or even Lewis Hamilton who irritatingly uses 'freakin' too much for my liking.

[987Monkey]

For me it came down to not wanting to be sucked up gradually into being one of a number of 'states' within a European Rebublic, with more and more of our powers being devolved to a European Government that we haven't even elected...that's not democracy.  It makes me shudder to think.  

[DKR_77]

3 hours ago, 987Monkey said:

For me it came down to not wanting to be sucked up gradually into being one of a number of 'states' within a European Rebublic, with more and more of our powers being devolved to a European Government that we haven't even elected...that's not democracy.  It makes me shudder to think.  

 

Exactly, the United States of Europe...doesn't work in America, what makes anybody believe it can work in Europe!?  

 

 

Edited June 29, 2016 by DKR_77

[Tom]

7 hours ago, eponymoose said:

 

Sorry, what?

 

The federal system in the US is probably the best part of their political system and probably the main driver of legislative innovation. Taken broadly, the US can look a mess, but on a state level they are far, far more innovative and often far more effective than we are.

 

The problem with the US is the bipartisan political culture and some of the technicalities like the two thirds / supermajority rules in the Senate and stalemate between the executive and the legislature, none of which is a function of federalism. Having a federation of states is not the problem, it's one of the fairly clearly positive aspects of the US political system.

 

Not that this makes the EU a good idea or workable.

 

No need to be sorry.

 

I certainly don't see it that way, and I lived and worked in a few of them over the years, and my family business had offices in five.  

 

Each to their own view, but from the inside looking out I can say with a fair degree of experience it doesn't work.  The quantum of stalled and failed public procurement of large infrastructure projects is just one example of the inefficiency of their system. 

 

 

 

 

[Tom]

I can understand it might look that way from the outside, but the reality is far different.  We should have adopted the PPP method when other countries (Canada, UK even Australia) did - 10 years behind and no countrywide standardised method of procurement - just each states own interpretation which is the problem - hence the problem and a long list of stalled, cancelled and abandoned projects. 

 

One of many, still could be worse eh!