MJ Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 did this thread ever get followed up after fitting of the Carnewal system? A road test report would be handy! especially with a youtube type vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Beanoir™ Posted December 8, 2016 Author Founder Share Posted December 8, 2016 5 hours ago, MJ said: did this thread ever get followed up after fitting of the Carnewal system? A road test report would be handy! especially with a youtube type vid Yeah I posted videos and stuff on my thread in the members cars section. Sounds awesome, really pleased with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Hi Costs to retro fit an Official R PSE (The R..not the S to an R) attached including the dash switch Totals £5K with VAT. What do you think? Edited May 17, 2021 by Julian987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andygo Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, Julian987 said: Hi Costs to retro fit an Official R PSE (The R..not the S to an R) attached including the dash switch Totals £5K with VAT. What do you think? Bargain. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor_CR Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Julian987 said: Hi Costs to retro fit an Official R PSE (The R..not the S to an R) attached including the dash switch Totals £5K with VAT. What do you think? And this is the reason I will most likely be going down the Carnewal route, at least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Julian987 said: Hi Costs to retro fit an Official R PSE (The R..not the S to an R) attached including the dash switch Totals £5K with VAT. What do you think? Yeah, I got quoted similar when I was just checking (mines already got PSE). It's nearly twice the cost of standard PSE on an S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Meteor_CR said: And this is the reason I will most likely be going down the Carnewal route, at least for now. yep but with that option you don’t get the dashboard upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I think I’ll do it but perhaps towards end of year/next year and save up a bit. My R has a Miltek exhaust and unless I am doing something wrong but it seems to makes no sonic difference when in sports mode or not. I guess it’s just always on and inline as such (excuse my naivety with the proper terminology but you probably get what I mean). The sonic is ok, but it doesn’t sound like what the car suggests it should sound like. I imagine I’d be lucky to get scrap for the existing exhaust as it’s not magpie shiny anymore. If I compare the costs of the official PSE vs (let’s say) a SOUL exhaust, considering shipping, import fees (perhaps also the headache of getting something that isn’t factory fitted) there isn’t much in it. The PSE for the R must sound good right? as surely Porsche must have at the time, poured more R&D budget into their exhausts than all these 3rd party companies combined. Not looking to annoy the neighbours, hence the desire for the factory on/off button, but when on does it make a notable difference on your R Andy? Thanks J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I had a carnewal exhaust (fitted by Gert) on a Gen 1 Boxster S. It was brilliant. Like the PSE, only really louder on full chat. You can switch it off on on by modulating the throttle. Well, almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Julian987 said: I think I’ll do it but perhaps towards end of year/next year and save up a bit. My R has a Miltek exhaust and unless I am doing something wrong but it seems to makes no sonic difference when in sports mode or not. I guess it’s just always on and inline as such (excuse my naivety with the proper terminology but you probably get what I mean). The sonic is ok, but it doesn’t sound like what the car suggests it should sound like. I imagine I’d be lucky to get scrap for the existing exhaust as it’s not magpie shiny anymore. If I compare the costs of the official PSE vs (let’s say) a SOUL exhaust, considering shipping, import fees (perhaps also the headache of getting something that isn’t factory fitted) there isn’t much in it. The PSE for the R must sound good right? as surely Porsche must have at the time, poured more R&D budget into their exhausts than all these 3rd party companies combined. Not looking to annoy the neighbours, hence the desire for the factory on/off button, but when on does it make a notable difference on your R Andy? Thanks J Yeah, I never turn it off and the car was still too quiet with it On. Even when On it still cycles On and Off at certain speeds so within a week I'd permanently switched it On by disconnecting the controller in engine bay. By month two I just thought #Fookit and scored a second hand pair of Soul catless headers and loaded a Softronic remap. Over here in NI neighbours don't care... It's only a weekend car though. Sound clip: https://www.instagram.com/p/COLju5iFY4F/?igshid=19nk2lfcqb485 Edited May 17, 2021 by Andyoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Beanoir™ Posted May 17, 2021 Author Founder Share Posted May 17, 2021 Crikey, thread revival! I priced up the R PSE exactly as above, I really couldn’t see the benefit of doing it and unless your car is a daily driver who needs to turn it off? It’s not that loud and doesn’t drone after all. That said, at the time I was actually quite paranoid that the Carnewal mod would de-value the car, so I had Gert source brand new R exhausts from Porsche and he modified those so I could keep the originals. Turned out to be a waste of time, when it came to the time of selling everybody who was interested in the car wanted the Carnewal left on it, I ended up selling the originals after the car had gone. Besides that, the Carnewal sounds better than the PSE, not louder (passed tests on track days), just a bit more authentic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I'd originally actually wanted an R without PSE as they were 'easier' to buy. I was going to Carnewal it as avoids the hassle of PSE actuator valves seizing etc. Mine R turned turned up with a PSE anyway. It is handy though in my case to shut the catless headers up when on motorway cruise. Either way, I think your starting point needs to be a stock Porsche exhaust. Most (all?) aftermarket ones don't sound 'Porsche' to me.... Can you order a none PSE exhaust for an R. Must have the 55mm bore pipe. Talk to Gert first IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Beanoir™ Posted May 17, 2021 Author Founder Share Posted May 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Andyoz said: Can you order a none PSE exhaust for an R. Must have the 55mm bore pipe. Talk to Gert first IMO... Yes, that’s exactly what I did on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Beanoir™ said: Yes, that’s exactly what I did on mine. Good to know it;s an option should my PSE ever pack it in. I definitely think this is the one mod that won't affect R values for many buyers (if one cares about these things)... I see pricing info here and that includes Gerts clever mod (you'd have to include for the tailpipes if you don't have them)... http://www.carnewal.com/products/987/p87026/987-2-Carnewal-GT-exhaust-made-from-new-Cayman-R-mufflers Edited May 17, 2021 by Andyoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Julian...make sure OPC is definitely quoting for the 55mm bore R exhaust. Here's are the parts numbers when I was enquiring. They initially couldn't find the correct one for me as it's hardly a common parts enquiry !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Thank you! you read my mind as whilst I was reading everyones kind replies, I noted this 55mm thing and thought I must check that is indeed what they are quoting on. Thank you for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyoz Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Julian987 said: Thank you! you read my mind as whilst I was reading everyones kind replies, I noted this 55mm thing and thought I must check that is indeed what they are quoting on. Thank you for the information! Judging by the quoted price, I'd say it is for the R! Edited May 17, 2021 by Andyoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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