andygo 11 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Hi here, I'm new to the Cayman forum, picking up my 987.2 Cayman S next saturday. I used to have an 97 Boxster S and fitted a Hids4u kit - has anyone tried these recently? They were excellent on the boxster for the 3 years I had it, so am looking to do dip and main at the same time. https://www.hids4u.co.uk/hidkits.php?car=22705 Pretty simple to fit, no error codes and could actually see where I was going! No issues at MOT time either. Any experiences on here? Link to post Share on other sites
Founder Beanoir™ 925 Posted October 3, 2020 Founder Share Posted October 3, 2020 Welcome! I am looking at doing a conversion my 996, quite a few people have recommended the RetroFitSource, they sell the Morimoto kits which are supposed to be pretty good quality. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/h9-morimoto-elite-HS-H9?quantity=1 Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I read on one of the novsight website pages that aftermarket LED's are not legal in the UK either, similar to HID's. Wonder if thats accurate? These look good if they are legal (and fit). https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOVSIGHT-Headlight-20000LM-10000LM-Conversion/dp/B07PWW2Y65?th=1 Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, andygo said: I read on one of the novsight website pages that aftermarket LED's are not legal in the UK either, similar to HID's. Wonder if thats accurate? These look good if they are legal (and fit). https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOVSIGHT-Headlight-20000LM-10000LM-Conversion/dp/B07PWW2Y65?th=1 Just found this: https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/blog/are-led-headlights-legal-in-the-uk/ Might as well fit HID's in that case! Link to post Share on other sites
eponymoose 58 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 10:31, andygo said: I read on one of the novsight website pages that aftermarket LED's are not legal in the UK either, similar to HID's. Wonder if thats accurate? These look good if they are legal (and fit). https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOVSIGHT-Headlight-20000LM-10000LM-Conversion/dp/B07PWW2Y65?th=1 They fit. Getting the retaining clips on is a bit tricky, otherwise no fitting problems and no codes. I wouldn't worry about the legality. Link to post Share on other sites
Jochen Klinsmann 0 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) will this bulb H6W fit the front parking light in the fog lamp, im so sick of the yellow bulb ruins the effect of the fog light https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-H6W-434-Bax9s-Canbus-LED-Parking-Side-Indicator-Light-Bulb-Bayonet-Bulb-White/273324069557?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Edited October 13, 2020 by Jochen Klinsmann Link to post Share on other sites
Jochen Klinsmann 0 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 09/01/2020 at 15:17, jaketame said: Update for side and front amber indicators I used these bulbs for side indicators without canbus errors: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-H6W-434-Bax9s-Canbus-LED-Parking-Side-Indicator-Light-Bulb-Bayonet-Bulb-White/273324069557?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Front Indicators are PY21W https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/581-twenty20-cree-led-12v-py21w-canbus-amber-bayonet-bulb.html Does the H6W LED work ok in the front fog lamps Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 11:35, andygo said: Just found this: https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/blog/are-led-headlights-legal-in-the-uk/ Might as well fit HID's in that case! I have bitten the 'dodgy' bullet and fitted the 5500 lumens stealth Hids4U kit. Pretty straightforward to filt, plenty of space in the headlight assembly. Very sharp beam cut off, nobody has flashed me yet (oo-er) so all good. Its a 10 minute job to pop the standard bulbs back in once a year for MOT time. Just seemed like a bit too much of a faff fitting questionable quality LED's and as I already had had a good experience of Hids4U, the rebel in me thought just go for it! In the meantime I can see where I am going and can always swap to LED's once they have a better and more predictable track record. Link to post Share on other sites
Childsy 8 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, andygo said: I have bitten the 'dodgy' bullet and fitted the 5500 lumens stealth Hids4U kit. Pretty straightforward to filt, plenty of space in the headlight assembly. Very sharp beam cut off, nobody has flashed me yet (oo-er) so all good. Its a 10 minute job to pop the standard bulbs back in once a year for MOT time. Just seemed like a bit too much of a faff fitting questionable quality LED's and as I already had had a good experience of Hids4U, the rebel in me thought just go for it! In the meantime I can see where I am going and can always swap to LED's once they have a better and more predictable track record. Going to do the same as these LEDs aren’t cutting it! Are the 5500 lumens stealth kits the 450% brighter ones? Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Allegedly 450%. Definately a lot brighter, especially when viewed against a halogen unit. They have a really sharp beam cutoff. I'm sure there are thousands of people running round with these Hid's so not too worried about a pull. Link to post Share on other sites
Childsy 8 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, andygo said: Allegedly 450%. Definately a lot brighter, especially when viewed against a halogen unit. They have a really sharp beam cutoff. I'm sure there are thousands of people running round with these Hid's so not too worried about a pull. Thanks Andy, I think I’ll give them a try 👌 Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The units are pretty easy to fit inside the lamp pod. I used some chunky self adnesive velcro to hold the various bit and pieces of hardware tidily in place. I purchased mine from Auto Bulbs Direct as Hids4U didn't have stock. https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/h7-hids4u-stealth-55w-high-brightness-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html Link to post Share on other sites
Boxman 1 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 07/11/2017 at 23:38, Bushman said: Hi Windy. I did try 100w blue ( all weather) H9 halogens and they lasted less than 2 weeks. with 19s, 35% sidewalls with hard and lowered springs the ultra fine elements are too delicate. I then bought H9 6000k fan cooled Nighteyes ( purple anodised chassis) and have never looked back. they are brilliant, excuse the pun. The central chassis that supports the cree cluster each side of a central post can be rotated within the bayonet mount to fine tune the light beams to the reflectors in the headlight unit. it is worth spending the extra time to do this to get the best projected light. I did mine off the car in the end, with a jump battery pack to power both dip and mains against a large whiteboard set at various distances. got the LED bulbs from ebay, about £20. I did post about it at the time, must have been nearly a year ago. hope this helps mate. Steve Hi Bushman, have you got a link to these and are they for the main beam? i've bought the h7 nighteyes for the dipped like yourself and wondering what to get now for the fogs and high beams. thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bushman 159 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hi Boxman. the mains were 600K Nighteyes fan cooled H9/11 LED units. I wish they were 500k, they wouldnt look quite so blue/white but being a slightly lower frequency would have given them better long range. still better than the originals though. prepare to play with the bulb positions to get the best beam results. u can rotate them a bit in their bayonet mount sleeves. there is not enough room for fan cooled in the fogs so i just used LED replacements with Cree elements all over them. I also replaced the side light bulbs with LED but had to remove the little internal reflector cap inside the light unit as the LED units are longer than the tungsten bulbs. Ive had no issues for 3 years with this setup. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post andygo 11 Posted November 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Bit of an update. Did my first cross country drive in dark conditions with my HID dipped units. They were absolutely fine. Switching on standard mains made hardly any difference - just a bit of a yellowish glimmer compared to the HID's on dip. Whats the latest thinking for 987.2 main beam replacement for the dark times we now live in!? LED'S or HID's? I can't think that halogens of any description are going to cut the mustard... Edited November 18, 2020 by andygo 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bushman 159 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 if it helps Andygo. if you want to replace your halogens with HIDs I am fairly confident in stating that you also need to fit headlight levelers and headlamp washers. without these it will be picked up by an MOT tester as a conversion and fail the test. That's why I went down the LED route. whilst not everybody likes the ultrawhite LED light output and the higher frequency light emission dissipates quicker than lower frequency halogen/xenon gas filament bulbs, I think that they are a vast improvement over standard. Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bushman said: if it helps Andygo. if you want to replace your halogens with HIDs I am fairly confident in stating that you also need to fit headlight levelers and headlamp washers. without these it will be picked up by an MOT tester as a conversion and fail the test. That's why I went down the LED route. whilst not everybody likes the ultrawhite LED light output and the higher frequency light emission dissipates quicker than lower frequency halogen/xenon gas filament bulbs, I think that they are a vast improvement over standard. Thanks for your reply Bushman. I'll prolly just pop the standard bulbs in for next Septembers MOT. It will only take 30 mins, so no big deal! The LED's are illegal as well, but apparently aren't as suitable on a day to day scenario as they dont seem to have an effective beam pattern. Link to post Share on other sites
eponymoose 58 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Quick update. I've previously fitted the 9,000lm Nighteye/Novsight LED dipped LEDs and found them to be awful. I then fitted the supposedly 20,000lm Nighteye/Novsight dipped LEDs and they're not bad. Better than the halogens, but still a bit too blue. More recently I fitted the most powerful HIDS4U xenon product to my high beams. They're pretty tricky to fit, but doable. They're pretty good, perhaps not quite as powerful as the marketing claims, but comparable with a factory fit HID for power. The catch is warm up time. They're incredibly slow to warm up. For a dipped beam taking somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds to fully warm up probably doesn't matter - once they've warmed up you're good to go. For a high beam you're switching on and off as traffic approaches etc, less great. Once they're warmed up they don't lose that 'warmth' so to speak immediately, but if you have them off for a bit, they do still need warming up again. My factory xenons on previous 987s only took a short moment to warm up and I think the high beam was a combo of added halogen and lifting a mask on the xenons, so was always instant. Anyway, just a bit of extra info. I suspect it's the quality of xenon bulbs. I wonder if different bulbs could be sourced that would warm up quicker. Link to post Share on other sites
andygo 11 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, eponymoose said: Quick update. I've previously fitted the 9,000lm Nighteye/Novsight LED dipped LEDs and found them to be awful. I then fitted the supposedly 20,000lm Nighteye/Novsight dipped LEDs and they're not bad. Better than the halogens, but still a bit too blue. More recently I fitted the most powerful HIDS4U xenon product to my high beams. They're pretty tricky to fit, but doable. They're pretty good, perhaps not quite as powerful as the marketing claims, but comparable with a factory fit HID for power. The catch is warm up time. They're incredibly slow to warm up. For a dipped beam taking somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds to fully warm up probably doesn't matter - once they've warmed up you're good to go. For a high beam you're switching on and off as traffic approaches etc, less great. Once they're warmed up they don't lose that 'warmth' so to speak immediately, but if you have them off for a bit, they do still need warming up again. My factory xenons on previous 987s only took a short moment to warm up and I think the high beam was a combo of added halogen and lifting a mask on the xenons, so was always instant. Anyway, just a bit of extra info. I suspect it's the quality of xenon bulbs. I wonder if different bulbs could be sourced that would warm up quicker. Ask the HIDS4U people, they may have an alternative. I have spoken to them in the past and they seemed helpful. Are you using good quality electric? Edited January 13 by andygo Link to post Share on other sites
eponymoose 58 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Reading around, sow warm up the norm for aftermarket HIDs. Used to be worse - 30 secs plus. If I can be arsed, will try to find some LED high beams, but not hugely hopeful... Link to post Share on other sites
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