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So I got the dipped beams fitted tonight, but ran out of time for the fog lights. Those will have to wait till tomorrow.

 

As everybody else has said the dipped beam H7's are amazing. Super happy with these, and glad I bought the LED's over Osram Nightbreakers.

 

@Cito Regards H9 high beam whiter halogens, I have not ordered them yet. I am still deciding between two, one on ebay one on Amazon. Once I order I will take pictures and past link. Will not share link until I have ordered as would not want to mislead people.

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LATEST UPDATE,  Over the last couple of weeks, I've spent some time experimenting with various IED bulb options. here are my conclusions. these , I emphasise are my own findings are these maybe d

Received my LED dip beams this morning... UK supplier so only took 3 days delivery.   Doddle to fit & much brighter white look.   Will test them out properly when it's dark!

Exact same as mine, very very good - considerably better than standard halogens. You will be impressed!   Tom

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Fogs now done too, and the number plate lights. Every bulb has now been changed on the car inside and out, with the exception of the high beam and indicators.

 

@Cito One issue with the whiter high beams halogens I have been looking at, is they are only quoted 5000k (and I don't believe that so so maybe only 4000k or 4500k if lucky). So they will not be as white as the 5500k or 6000k LEDs, but as stock bulbs are 3000k they will still be whiter. Also they don't quote long running hours.

 

I think I might order some of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/DZG-Halogen-Bulbs-Headlight-Pieces/dp/B07KXQZ4T9/

Have not ordered yet, looking for thoughts/feedback before I do order them. I am 100% decided on halogen not LED for high beams.

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9 hours ago, Simon Wood said:

Fogs now done too, and the number plate lights. Every bulb has now been changed on the car inside and out, with the exception of the high beam and indicators.

 

@Cito One issue with the whiter high beams halogens I have been looking at, is they are only quoted 5000k (and I don't believe that so so maybe only 4000k or 4500k if lucky). So they will not be as white as the 5500k or 6000k LEDs, but as stock bulbs are 3000k they will still be whiter. Also they don't quote long running hours.

 

I think I might order some of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/DZG-Halogen-Bulbs-Headlight-Pieces/dp/B07KXQZ4T9/

Have not ordered yet, looking for thoughts/feedback before I do order them. I am 100% decided on halogen not LED for high beams.

 

I am not sure to change the high beams to be honest. For the reasons you said. If I really have to I would go for the best halogen I can find, otherwise I think I swill stick with the stock ones. I mean, I don't use high beams so often...

Futhermore I am not sure I want to try the thrill to push the plastic in order to fit the LED's ones 🙂

 

Thanks for the update

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Are 100w main Halogen / Xenon's ok to run in a 987.....ref any heat issues ? Or better to stick with 65w to be sure.....

 

And any latest suggestions / recommendations for the H9 mains ???

 

EDIT: Found and purchased these E-marked 65w Xenon upgrade H9’s - with 6000k rating to match the low beam and driving lights I’ve already purchased. I’ll give some thoughts when fitted:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292434413801

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On 02/05/2020 at 16:53, sevenfourate said:

Are 100w main Halogen / Xenon's ok to run in a 987.....ref any heat issues ? Or better to stick with 65w to be sure.....

 

And any latest suggestions / recommendations for the H9 mains ???

 

EDIT: Found and purchased these E-marked 65w Xenon upgrade H9’s - with 6000k rating to match the low beam and driving lights I’ve already purchased. I’ll give some thoughts when fitted:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292434413801


it will error if the wattage isn’t the same but can’t remember what the main beam wattage is. 

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8 hours ago, jaketame said:


it will error if the wattage isn’t the same but can’t remember what the main beam wattage is. 

 

Thanks for the heads-up @jaketame 👍

 

I'd bought 65w because all the info and talk here eluded to that. Last night after reading your post - i found some some Porsche manuals online; and they mention / spec both 55w and 65w.

 

So i bought some 55w last night to make sure i'm covered.

 

Cheers !.

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Just to provide a little context to all the rave reviews, I fitted the Nighteye 9000LM 6500K H7 units to my dipped beams today.

 

To be perfectly honest, I think they're s**t. They're far too cool in terms of colour temp, they look like naff halogens with blue tints. I did wonder regarding the 6500K temp, but everyone has been raving about them, so gave them the benefit of the doubt. The colour temp compromises the effectiveness of the headlights, IMO, to the point where I'm not totally convinced they are fit for use.

 

You can see here how yellow they make the gen 2 LED spars look. Those spars look white compared to halogens.

 

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Going to try to source some H7 LEDs with much lower colour temp - 4500-5000 would be more suitable. Anyone found a good set of those?

 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, eponymoose said:

Just to provide a little context to all the rave reviews, I fitted the Nighteye 9000LM 6500K H7 units to my dipped beams today.

 

To be perfectly honest, I think they're s**t. They're far too cool in terms of colour temp, they look like naff halogens with blue tints. I did wonder regarding the 6500K temp, but everyone has been raving about them, so gave them the benefit of the doubt. The colour temp compromises the effectiveness of the headlights, IMO, to the point where I'm not totally convinced they are fit for use.

 

You can see here how yellow they make the gen 2 LED spars look. Those spars look white compared to halogens.

 

IMG-8265.jpg.b607a206e737d61b9853bd36d27b3709.jpg

 

 

Going to try to source some H7 LEDs with much lower colour temp - 4500-5000 would be more suitable. Anyone found a good set of those?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I tried the Nighteyes albeit on my Impreza and was not impressed either.  I have since read that LED's perform better in reflector lens units, not so well in projector lenses, apparently.  I can't claim to be an expert on headlight design and science though. 

 

With the 996 I thought I'd try the Philips Ultinon LED lamps, and to be honest they are better and seem to have a much better beam pattern, whether thats down to the 996 having reflector lenses or the lamp deign been better I couldn't say, but they are much better than the Nighteye from my experience.  The Philips units are still quite white, but then so are the OEM LEDs in my BMW headlights so I live with that aspect of things. 

 

The Philips lamps are pricey, I found the best price was here with their 20% discount came to £111.  https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/x-tremeultinon-gen2-led-headlight-bulbs-h7-twin

 

 

 

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Interesting, I find my LED dipped beam an improvement over my stock bulbs, even just in brightness- I can see the road ahead of me better. Can't be too hard to find some in a different colour temp?

 

The full beam LED's... thats a slightly different story. I feel like they spread the light around more, rather than focusing it in the distance ahead of you. I think the stock full-beams are better than the LED's, but it's not a big enough difference to warrant me trying to get the bulbs back out, as they were a real PITA to get in 😅

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3 hours ago, Joe Spicer said:

Interesting, I find my LED dipped beam an improvement over my stock bulbs, even just in brightness- I can see the road ahead of me better. Can't be too hard to find some in a different colour temp?

 

The full beam LED's... thats a slightly different story. I feel like they spread the light around more, rather than focusing it in the distance ahead of you. I think the stock full-beams are better than the LED's, but it's not a big enough difference to warrant me trying to get the bulbs back out, as they were a real PITA to get in 😅

 

I don't think they are an improvement re visibility. I'm baffled at people raving about them.

 

If someone said they preferred them to the halogens, OK. But the idea that they are miles better functionally as many seem to think is, in my experience, miles off the mark. The quantity of light is mediocre given the expectations raised and the cool temperature exacerbates that.

 

I've ordered some LED units with slightly more than double the lumens rating which is what I think will be required to get decent functionality. They're also 6000K, so a bit better in that regard. A temp tweak would help, but much more power is also needed.

 

Obviously, this is merely my / one opinion, but I think a balancing voice to all the rave reviews is required. I have to say I though these LEDs were pretty s**t.

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Oh, and if the new units are no good, I may try the top-of-the-range Philips units. They are very expensive and have a much lower lumens rating, but I suspect the lumens ratings of these Nighteye / Novsight units are Testicals and the Philips may be as bright or brighter (which wouldn't be hard versus the Nighteye 9000lm I have have installed). And they are 5800K.

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36 minutes ago, eponymoose said:

 

I don't think they are an improvement re visibility. I'm baffled at people raving about them.

 

If someone said they preferred them to the halogens, OK. But the idea that they are miles better functionally as many seem to think is, in my experience, miles off the mark. The quantity of light is mediocre given the expectations raised and the cool temperature exacerbates that.

 

I've ordered some LED units with slightly more than double the lumens rating which is what I think will be required to get decent functionality. They're also 6000K, so a bit better in that regard. A temp tweak would help, but much more power is also needed.

 

Obviously, this is merely my / one opinion, but I think a balancing voice to all the rave reviews is required. I have to say I though these LEDs were pretty s**t.


What LEDs have you gone for? 

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What LEDs have you gone for? 

 

 

You mean the new ones I ordered after the 9000lm nighteyes turned out to be s**t?

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Yes, you’ve certainly made your point on the Nighteye’s lol. I also have the Nighteye’s and I agree they still don’t give out enough light. Better than Halogen but still no good. 
 

I’m tempted to go down the HID kit route with my projectors. Once adjusted correctly with 5500K colour, they can look OEM, not dazzle and have a good beam pattern.

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I've got osram nightbreaker bulbs in mine and its never caused me too much trouble. Agree not as easy as the newer Bi-Xenon's / LED's but its not that bad

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So, I've fitted another set of LEDs for the dipped beam.

 

I first tried the 9000LM 6500K Nighteyes that everyone has been raving about and thought they were pretty rubbish. So I bought a set of these 20,000LM 6000K alternatives:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07PWW2Y65/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Supposedly over double the lumens and a bit warmer re temp. In practice they are a bit better, but certainly don't seem twice as bright. Overall, I'd say they represent a small upgrade over the standard halogens, whereas the 9000LM 6500K Nighteyes were bad enough that I thought I'd probably revert to the halogens.

 

They're also a bit harder to fit due to the larger fan and heat sink.

 

Tempted to try the Philips or the Twenty20. I think the brightness ratings of the Nighteye/Novsight units are hugely exaggerated. But they're both quite expensive and this stuff is adding up!

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1 hour ago, eponymoose said:

So, I've fitted another set of LEDs for the dipped beam.

 

I first tried the 9000LM 6500K Nighteyes that everyone has been raving about and thought they were pretty rubbish. So I bought a set of these 20,000LM 6000K alternatives:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07PWW2Y65/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Supposedly over double the lumens and a bit warmer re temp. In practice they are a bit better, but certainly don't seem twice as bright. Overall, I'd say they represent a small upgrade over the standard halogens, whereas the 9000LM 6500K Nighteyes were bad enough that I thought I'd probably revert to the halogens.

 

They're also a bit harder to fit due to the larger fan and heat sink.

 

Tempted to try the Philips or the Twenty20. I think the brightness ratings of the Nighteye/Novsight units are hugely exaggerated. But they're both quite expensive and this stuff is adding up!

These are the “new model” of the nighteye. Nighteye as a brand does not exist anymore. It’s been re branded in novosight, but they are always them. 

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