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So i'm looking (finally) to get my first Porsche, taken a while but with the kids gone and a bit of money for fun stuff in my back pocket i've decided it's now or never!  

 

I've read about the new Porsche Cayman having a turbo engine, 4 cylinder which sounds a bit odd to me, but the dealership wasn't very helpful in this regard and couldn't help an awful lot.  They did let me drive a year old car though which had an automatic type gearbox, amazing car and it blew me away but I think i'd like a manual still.  

 

In fairness my budget would just about get me into a 2.7 car for a year or so old, or maybe save a few quid and go for a really nice earlier car but bigger engine, S model?  

 

My dealer didn't have any of the older model to test drive so that makes it a bit tricky.  All I know is i'm so looking forward to getting one now i've had a brief taster! 

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So my budget for a used car is about £30k, which having a look around seems to be about the bottom of the market for the latest Cayman shape.

 

Was looking at something like this

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-24v/4562220?v=b

 

Is mileage anything to worry about on these cars?  I wouldn't mind certain spec but I guess beggers can't be choosers and all.

 

My other options really are to get the older model and get a top of the range model or wait for the new ones and pay a bit for it every month.  Can't decide really.

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I tried the 987 Cayman 2.9 (post 2009) in early 2014 and bought a TTS over it due to interior "vibe" and space. The 981 is a better place to sit, hence I bought one, but some say the 987 is the better driver's car due to steering fee primarily. Then there's the shape. I like both 50/50.

 

To get a reasonably specced 981 with 30k miles you'd be looking at £35k. So, either borrow a bit or go for a 987. BUT... test drive each model LOTS before deciding!

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Agree with DJMC, go and drive both.  There are significant differences between the 987 and 981, some go in favour of the latter som win favour of the former and will depend on what you are after.  

 

For me personally, if I was after a daily driver i'd opt probably for a 981, if I wanted a car to get in a drive at weekends then a 987.  That was my conundrum last year 981 GTS vs. 987 CR, obviously I went with the latter, keep an old 987 Boxster for daily duties instead.  

 

 

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I've got an appointment this weekend to drive a Cayman S, the older shape 987.  

 

Another question (sorry!), whats the deal with clutch replacement on the PDK, does it even have a clutch? just wondering, given the cleverness of the system I was wondering if that translates into expensive repairs!! 

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Just bought my first Porsche, a 2.7 981. It's true that your budget is some way off being able to afford a new or nearly new one. However, what I did find is that it was actually cheaper to buy a new one that a second hand one. This seems to be because most used ones are heavily specced with options (I am told £8-12K is normal for extras), whereas my options only came to £5K. Certainly don't feel I'm compromising and loving the car!

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Agreed, the £30k would be used as a deposit against a new car ;) 

 

Anyway, I drove a Gen2 Cayman S this weekend, it was well within my budget which was the first plus point.  Car was quite low mileage and I was suprised how tight and solid it felt given it was 4 years old.  Performance was great, much better than I was expecting and more than than enough for me I think.  I liked the interior, somebody said the black interior was nicer and I agree, I saw an earlier model and the central dashboard and surrounding area was a bit of a nothing grey colour.  

 

The only thing I wasn't sure about were the brakes, the car had new pads fitted about 1,000 miles ago but it didn't quite bite like I would have expected, almost a bit spongey...  

 

I wouldn't mind seeing some more before deciding but the decision is definitely becoming easier, I'm not sure the extra £25k is justifiable for a new one now.  

 

 

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On 10 December 2015 15:27:31, RobDJ said:

I've got an appointment this weekend to drive a Cayman S, the older shape 987.  

 

Another question (sorry!), whats the deal with clutch replacement on the PDK, does it even have a clutch? just wondering, given the cleverness of the system I was wondering if that translates into expensive repairs!! 

 

Some heresay here: 

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1234769

 

http://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/458591-pdk-clutch-replacement-costs-maybe-5000-6000-15-000-miles.html

 

Did you drive the 981 too?

 

 

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On 13 December 2015 11:48:29, Colin said:

Just bought my first Porsche, a 2.7 981. It's true that your budget is some way off being able to afford a new or nearly new one. However, what I did find is that it was actually cheaper to buy a new one that a second hand one. This seems to be because most used ones are heavily specced with options (I am told £8-12K is normal for extras), whereas my options only came to £5K. Certainly don't feel I'm compromising and loving the car!

 

A base car with few options will be cheaper to buy, but you may lose the money you saved when it comes to re-sale as buyers will mostly look for well specced cars, as they tend to do when buying new. Plus, you lose the enjoyment of the extra spec whilst owning it.

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i've definitely decided to go for a later gen2 car now and like you say sir, can go for a well specced car as well at that budget for that car.  

 

I'm not really minded to use finance for this you see, so I think i'll stick to the budget and whilst the 981 was a lovely car, I think i'll go for the 987 to start me off :) 

 

Now i need to find one, and work out what options.  The leather options for the interior are a bit confusing, can have bits stuck in all sorts of places by the looks of it. ..  

 

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The 987 is such a classic already. When I see one I feel a kindred spirit and no sense of superiority being in the newer model. There are few cars on the road that maintain a classic status, but the Caymans do already.

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On 17 December 2015 at 22:46:45, DJMC said:

The 987 is such a classic already. When I see one I feel a kindred spirit and no sense of superiority being in the newer model. There are few cars on the road that maintain a classic status, but the Caymans do already.

 

I agree, feels smaller too which I quite like.  

 

Saw a car this morning which was really nice, it was PDK which I think I quite like actually although i've seen others knocking it (don't know why).  The one thing I wasn't sure about was it didn't have the SatNav (PCM?) just a CD player, I think i'm being fussy but i'd quite like the satnav 

 

 

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What's people's views on warranties? 

 

As as far as I can work out, I can get a Porsche warranty which is better than a normal warranty or none at all and save my pennies? 

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The only thing I wasn't sure about were the brakes, the car had new pads fitted about 1,000 miles ago but it didn't quite bite like I would have expected, almost a bit spongey...  

 

 

In relation to your above comment  I thought this too when I first drove my 987.1, I wasn't convinced, after testing a few they all feel like that. I think that coming from a 1 series where the brakes are very over assisted then they feel spongy. In reality I soon got used to them and they just require more peddle pressure. Helps with modulation of brake performance. 

 

Hope me that helps. 

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6 hours ago, RobDJ said:

What's people's views on warranties? 

 

As as far as I can work out, I can get a Porsche warranty which is better than a normal warranty or none at all and save my pennies? 

 

Some 3rd party warranties have such a low claims limit that they are unlikely to cover much with a Porsche so I think you're better to stick with a Porsche warranty.

 

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1 hour ago, twopointnine said:

 

Some 3rd party warranties have such a low claims limit that they are unlikely to cover much with a Porsche so I think you're better to stick with a Porsche warranty.

 

 

 

I was nearly swindled by warranty wise who wanted 1200 quid for a two year warranty via the specialist dealer I bought my car through. . When I started looking through some of there terms and conditions it's obvious they were never going to pay out. 

 

I read some reviews online and came across an article where a cam had seized, thrown the belt off and grenaded the engine. They would pay for the cam to be fixed but refused to pay for the engine as it was a subsequential loss caused by the cam seizing and was written into there terms and conditions. The more I searched the more and more it seemed they would never pay out on anything major. A few reports of people threatening legal action. 

 

In in my opinion there all crooks, I couldn't afford opc so I put the 1200 quid in a bank account and put a few hundred aside each month. If it breaks down hopefully I have enough to cover the cost. If it doesn't I have a nice chunk towards my next car. 

 

Unless its its opc warranty I wouldn't bother 

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Also bought a new 981 with a mere 3 options, <2year old cars look expensive especially when you can obtain some discount right now on a new 981.

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On ‎13‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 11:48, Colin said:

 However, what I did find is that it was actually cheaper to buy a new one that a second hand one. This seems to be because most used ones are heavily specced with options (I am told £8-12K is normal for extras), whereas my options only came to £5K. Certainly don't feel I'm compromising and loving the car!

Nice man maths to get a new one :-) when you can get a fully loaded 981 S with ave miles for 25k off list lol

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