el_rapido Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi all, Interested to hear what brake pad and fluid upgrades you have done for fast road / occasional trackday use. I'm running a stock Cayman R, looking to upgrade the pads and fluid but still want them to be as road-friendly as possible (minimal dust/noise). Probably won't go to the full extent of changing the rotors just yet. Some quick searching on here as pointed towards a couple of options, EBC, Pagids, etc, maybe something from Brembo. As for fluid, what are people using......Castrol SRF (or whatever its called now), or Motul? Any information appreciated. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Posted January 29, 2017 Administrators Share Posted January 29, 2017 As for fluid, Castrol React SRF is the way to go and for pads go with the Ferodo DS2500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_rapido Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Thanks Tom. Do the DS2500's fit straight in or are there any workarounds required? How's the performance on track compared with OEM setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorscheGT4 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Castrol SRF is more a race fluid and absorbs water faster, race teams don't care they chance it every race. Not really a fan of DS2500 they don't offer much over the oem pad on the R, as the R has better pads fitted anyway. RS29 are great but may be a bit too much and can squeal, CL pads might be a in between pad to try and 1/2 the price of rs29's I was debating RS14 but I do like the RS29 pad bar the price. Endless are the best pads but £800 a pair ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Square Images Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 CL pads delaminate from their backing plates very easily. I too am looking for something as the pads on mine are SHITE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_rapido Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Thanks guys, I'm still looking at options. Interesting to hear that about the CLs. Another potential upgrade I'm considering is the GT3 master cylinder, to firm-up the pedal feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Fagan Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I've used Mintex M1166 and have found them superb for track and road. I also use SRF and having been in for over a year now with still no problems, however some of the race teams say it can induce the "Ice brake pedal" which I've only ever had when bedding in new pads. I use AP600 in the race car which is equally as good. I did use Mintex F-series pads in my race car which were great but they wear the discs badly if constantly used from cold. HTH Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Square Images Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 How aggressive are the M1166? I have used Performance Friction PF08s and RS29s on other cars. RS29 seemed very aggressive and dusty where as PF08 were fantastic but ate paint for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Fagan Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Square Images said: How aggressive are the M1166? I have used Performance Friction PF08s and RS29s on other cars. RS29 seemed very aggressive and dusty where as PF08 were fantastic but ate paint for breakfast. I don't find them aggressive at all, you can run them on a daily and wouldn't know they were performance pads, yet they hold up very well on track days/Competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Square Images Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Cost? And where from. Whatever is on my car at the moment is shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty1 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just bumping this thread, I am yet to do a track day in my car but so far I have fitted braided lines and will change to EBC yellow stuff pads all round, GT3 front brake ducts and 997 Turbo rear ducts for extra cooling on the rotors however still not sure if Castrol SRF is a must or can a decent DOT 4 fluid work ok ? Thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 For your first track outing ... why not keep it all standard and see how go ? On the road ... my CR brakes improve the harder that they are used hence I am hopeful that they will be half decent on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty1 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yes agree for the road they are more than up to the job but in my experience of track driving in other cars, brakes are the 1st weakness to be exposed, it's another level punishment compared to the road with heat being the main issue, so just curious how people have found the standard brakes and mainly fluid on track. I'd like to have good strong brakes that can handle repeated high speed stops with as little fade if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 After my first track outing with the car and it`s standard brakes ... Anglesey last Saturday. Overall the brakes stood up quite well although I do admit to being rather cautious with them, especially in the morning sessions. Pushed them harder during the afternoon and ran five / six lap sessions. They worked well and gave me more confidence, even got the ABS to kick in ! Will use them `as is` at Knockhill next month and then decide if an upgrade is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty1 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Good to hear that the stock stuff appears up to it for the most part, I still think the GT3 duct updgrade is worth doing as it's relatively easy and cheap mod and more cooling can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I've had yellow stuff all round for two track days. Have to say I've not been impressed, not terrible but not able to get ABS to kick in which you should, on the road they need a good shove as well. I fitted them a week after getting the car so thought it was just a Cayman quirk, the old standard pads were brand new so kept those as spare. The YS pads are close to the limit now so thought I'd it put the standard pads back before the mot. What a difference, much firmer and I can get the ABS to kick in, I'm off to Blyton Park on Sunday so will be interesting to see how they fare. May just be a one off, perhaps the pads weren't heatcycled enough when i fitted them (no idea what I'm talking about, just read that somewhere). I had yellow stuff on my old MR2 and they were great. Most people rate YS so I'm prepared to admit that my experience was an anomaly. Brake fluid was new on the first outing and only a few months old on the second. Same fluid now (one year old) and brakes are fine so can't blame that, when the road pads wear down I'm thinking of trying brembo HP2000 pads. Marketed as OEM replacements but with better fade resistance. Anyone try them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_rapido Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Quick update, I've gone with Endless pads up front and Castrol fluid as a starting base. Haven't had opportunity to properly test them yet as latest 'ring trip was a washout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just a note to say with any "performance or track" pads you really need to follow the bedding in process. It's usually a number of hard stops in succession - not always easy to do but they need the heat cycles to give their best ..... Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Kai said: Just a note to say with any "performance or track" pads you really need to follow the bedding in process. It's usually a number of hard stops in succession - not always easy to do but they need the heat cycles to give their best ..... Kai Did try with the yellow stuff but didn't work for me, but yep could be that. When my stock pads die i may try the Brembo HP2000 pads. Not mad expensive and supposed to better than stock (which are not terrible if you keep the stints short). Bedford in July so will see how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty1 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Hi Porker, hope you don't mind me asking but did you do the whole 200 miles of gentle braking 1st before doing the heat cycling on the YS pads ? I've just fitted mine and so far only done 40 miles on them so another 150 miles of gentle braking at least before I do the multiple 60-10 mph stops to heat cycle them, I have to say other people saying the same as you which doesn't sound overly encouraging ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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