Popular Post Andrea Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hi, As I design cars for living I thought would be nice to design a proper ducktail for my 987. I don't really like what's on the market right now so here is my proposal. If someone is interested or has skills and wants to make one out of fibreglass/carbonfibre for himself/herself then get in touch please. What's your thoughts about it? Do you like it? Andrea 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMGPete Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 That looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, PMGPete said: That looks great! Thanks! Just need to find someone who could make it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morghen Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I was also thinking about a better tail than the factory one. I like your idea but i would like to see a smaller version as well, just double the factory size. I could help with prototyping, not sure about production though. There is a carbon fiber guy in my city, maybe i can get him to build a few of these things. Edited January 31, 2019 by morghen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, morghen said: I was also thinking about a better tail than the factory one. I like your idea but i would like to see a smaller version as well, just double the factory size. I could help with prototyping, not sure about production though. There is a carbon fiber guy in my city, maybe i can get him to build a few of these things. There is already a ducktail that is "double the size" of the stock spoiler, but I don't really like it. You can easily find it on internet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiglm68 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Agreed, the version up top looks good. A few US crowds are making versions thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morghen Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 53 minutes ago, Andrea Frasky said: There is already a ducktail that is "double the size" of the stock spoiler, but I don't really like it. You can easily find it on internet... hm, could not find anything Your design looks great as well, but i think a front lip needs to be added, otherwise you may get nose lift at higher speeds. Do you plan a nose lip design as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, morghen said: hm, could not find anything Your design looks great as well, but i think a front lip needs to be added, otherwise you may get nose lift at higher speeds. Do you plan a nose lip design as well? When using a wing or ducktail you need to increase the rake angle of the car to generate downforce at the front. I could design a front lip but eventually.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Craiglm68 said: Agreed, the version up top looks good. A few US crowds are making versions thereof. Yes but problem is all the other designs are just too flat on the side walls and not a true Porsche style ducktail in my opinion. I could get the Getty one which I like as well, but I prefer mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morghen Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How would your design attach to the car? Would it be on the place of the factory lifting wing or on the hatch? If its fixed on the hatch, do you plan to design a cover to fill the space created by removing the factory lifting wing? Because your ducktail wing looks like it needs the factory wing gone, and if you open the hatch there will be a hole where the factory wing was. It does not look like your design can be fixed on the factory mounts and still be able to open the hatch. Can you please clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsched eggs Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Looks superb I must say. dont like the other ones out there, they look like flaps rather than the ducktail shape. would it have to be bonded or screwed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Love the look of it, great project to be able to build something yourself rather than just buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggyjam Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Absolutely love it. I really looked into a ducktail last year but shelved it as didn’t like what was on offer. The current ones look like a beaver’s tail which is redilcuous. Nothing like an RS tail. i like your design. The 987 always looked to me sort of like a baby retro 911 when debadged. Even more so with that. Edited February 3, 2019 by Buggyjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 22 hours ago, Buggyjam said: The 987 always looked to me sort of like a baby retro 911 Thanks, and that was my thought and aim as well. All I need to do now is to try and make one out of fiberglass, but it would be my first time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggyjam Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Agree with mentioned above looks like your design will need to be fixed to the tailgate as it impedes the shut line. It’s why the current “beaver tail” ones look so wrong. Not just as they’re thin flaps and wrong angle but they sit on the current spoiler line which is slightly too rear and shallow in depth for a proper duck tail yours looks right on and good depth, but suspect you’d have the issues mentioned above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morghen Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 This design must be fixed on the hatch but must also rest on the place where the factory wing seats. So a support device must replace the factory wing and the ducktail must rest on that support device. Regarding actually making the part, if you would send me the model to scale, i can 3D print it in 4-5 pieces, do an assembly trial and glue it together, then give it to a carbon fiber expert to make a mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggyjam Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just a slight bit of feedback. It’s only a minor point, but I think it could do with being slightly less tall. As in not stick up quite so much. Slightly shallower perhaps. But that’s icing on the cake stuff and only after I looked again. Great design! Really impressed. Hope you can get round the mounting issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 have you guys thought about a split design where the majority is mounted on the rear lid but the rear half is a separate moulding that either covers the original elevating spoiler ( with the motor unplugged) to form the complete ducktail profile or is a separate moulding that completely replaces the spoiler but uses the actuators inside to move an active airbrake built into the ducktail. this could be triggered by a signal from the brake lights. below 55mph when the spoiler would normally be down, an airbrake would have little effect anyway so it would just look like a 911 type ducktail. just a crazy thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morghen Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Quote have you guys thought about a split design where the majority is mounted on the rear lid but the rear half is a separate moulding that either covers the original elevating spoiler ( with the motor unplugged) to form the complete ducktail profile or is a separate moulding that completely replaces the spoiler but uses the actuators inside to move an active airbrake built into the ducktail. this could be triggered by a signal from the brake lights. below 55mph when the spoiler would normally be down, an airbrake would have little effect anyway so it would just look like a 911 type ducktail. just a crazy thought. This ducktail wing is all the air brake you will ever need, more air brake you can get only by opening a parachute 😁 Edited February 5, 2019 by morghen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMGPete Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 OPC can code the active spoiler out. Means you have no warning errors on the dash. I got them to do mine before fitting the GT4 wing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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