Tidy 987.2 for sale

[Gingybreadman]

5 minutes ago, Alan W said:

Well I’m a bit disappointed that despite sending emails to the below Porsche Specialists 10 days ago (all recommended on this Forum) with details of the Cayman I’m looking for I’m still waiting for an acknowledgement or better still some form of reply:

 

Redline, Williams Crawford, Cridfords and Flat Six Classics

 

Are Porsche sales that easy to come by that my interest and potential custom (up to £30k spend) can be ignored or am I right to be disappointed with these vendors?

 

An enquiry was sent over 48 hours ago about a car being widely advertised on a few different websites (Piston heads, Car & Classic etc) and also remains unanswered.

 

Is this typical or am I expecting too much?

 

Your thoughts and experiences appreciated guys and gals!

 

Alan W

Afternoon Bud,

 

I'd be slightly bitter about it also, especially since we're nudging the back end of the week.

 

You'd have thought they'd have been jumping at the bit for a sale, especially in this current climate when people are more concerned about paying the heating bills, I can't imagine they'll be inundated with potential buyers as they may once had been. This being said, it may be a good option for you to call them and just say that you're interested (should you have the time to do so), at least this gives the impression of a serious buyer chasing up e-mails.

 

Dan

[Alan W]

Hi Dan,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Sending an email with the details of what I’m looking for means they have a record of it and can easily contact me should they get a car in that meets my requirements.  I think this is better than a phone call that doesn’t necessarily get the requirements noted for recall when/if a suitable car becomes available.

 

With regard to the unanswered enquiry about a specific car for sale I have requested more information (service type/mileage/date, accident history, paintwork originality etc) that is not stated in the advert.  Once I have this information I am better placed to know if I am interested in the car further and can phone if I wish to proceed further.

 

I should add that the following Porsche specialists have all replied, noted my requirements and will contact me should they have a suitable car for sale:

 

Ashgood Classic & Sportscars, RPM Technik, Dove House Motor Company, Cameron Sports Cars, 911 Virgin, MR Sportscars, JZM Porsche & Steve Bull Specialist Cars

[MartinF6]

Personally, I would not expect any of them to do much with this kind of enquiry. You'd be lucky if they emailed you if they happened to get the right car in stock. I wouldn't be holding my breath, even regarding the ones that have replied. I wouldn't be expecting to hear from anyone and wouldn't be surprised to see relevant cars appearing for sale without you being informed.

 

It's just not a high enough value car with a big enough margin to really make it worth their while doing any leg work for you. Moreover, any relevant car they get in they'll sell easily enough without the need to track requests like yours. So, from a purely cynical / business perspective, why bother?

 

Maybe if you had a good existing relationship with one of them and bought lots of cars they might try to keep you happy. Otherwise, I would suggest you need to be spending an awful lot these days to get them off their collective bums.

 

To be fair, a good 987.2 Cayman priced right is an easy sell, even in this market. So, they really don't have to make much of an effort to shift them. It's a business, ultimately, and up to a point it's reasonable to put the time in where the rewards are greatest.

[Alan W]

I can see the point you are making Martin but this could be the first purchase of many Porsche cars over a long period of time.  Would this not be worth investing in from their point of view and starting to build a relationship that could bring further and continued business over the years?

 

Any car priced right, as you say, is an easy sell but a lot of Porsche specialists are somewhat unrealistic with their pricing if the number of cars remaining unsold for weeks, nay months, is anything to go by.

 

I am searching AutoTrader and PistonHeads daily and other sources/retailers of this type of car and definitely not relying on a specialist to contact me should they have a car.  It was just another avenue to finding a suitable car in case my searches miss finding my ideal Cayman.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Alan W

[MartinF6]

6 hours ago, Alan W said:

I can see the point you are making Martin but this could be the first purchase of many Porsche cars over a long period of time.  Would this not be worth investing in from their point of view and starting to build a relationship that could bring further and continued business over the years?

 

Honestly, I don't think it is worth it, no. And nor do they, which is why you won't hear from any of them unless you get lucky and one of them gets and car in and happens to remember you. I very much doubt you'll be prioritised in any really meaningful way.

 

The reality is that the vast majority of people buying a 2.9 Cayman aren't going to then go and buy three £150K-plus cars off them in the next few years. I mean, are they going to somehow source a car differently for you? How would that work? Are they going to dedicate hours or even doing trying to find a car for you? Ultimately, no.  They source cars how they source them, none of them is going to scour the country for a car for you, there's just not enough money in it for them.

 

At best you'll get an email / call if one of them gets a low mile 2.9 and happens to remember your call / email. You could give each one a buzz once a month to see if they have anything in the pipeline that hasn't been listed yet and if you do that you'll also keep yourself present in their minds and give you a fighting chance they'll remember when a car comes in. But an email today and hoping they'll get in touch months from now, don't think that's going to happen.

 

Personally, I couldn't be bothered when I was shopping. I rang a few and it seemed obvious from speaking to them that weren't going to do anything and really I didn't blame them. They weren't going to be making big bucks sourcing a car for me. So it was a case of getting all their sites bookmarked and hitting them a couple of times a day to make sure nothing went up without knowing about it. Once you have you bookmarks setup properly, you can cover them all off in a minute or two and do that a few times a day while being ready to pounce.

[Andy]

You never really know, some garages that could be chasing sales at the moment will likely have someone keeping tabs on potential customers, other garages that aren't chasing a sale likely wouldn't bother with the extra work and cost to them. 

Like mentioned, unless you are a regular customer or likely to bring lots of trade every 6 months then it isn't worth there time. 

 

However... as I said.. you never really know what is going on behind closed doors. You may get a call and I hope you do, but I wouldn't stop the looking at the dealers sites including the ones who have taken your details. 

 

Good luck with the hunt! 

[Alan W]

41 minutes ago, Andy said:

Good luck with the hunt! 

 

Thanks Andy!  👍

[Neil_jdmr]

Alan is that blue one on AT with 17k miles any interest to you? £23900 

 

Same owner from new and the ad says they are fitting 4 new tyres, a/c condensers plus other stuff but easy a few grands worth of extras

 

2009

Ext leather

Carbon pack

Chrono

Pasm

[Alan W]

10 minutes ago, Neil_jdmr said:

Alan is that blue one on AT with 17k miles any interest to you? £23900 

 

Same owner from new and the ad says they are fitting 4 new tyres, a/c condensers plus other stuff but easy a few grands worth of extras

 

2009

Ext leather

Carbon pack

Chrono

Pasm

 

Hi Neil,

 

I'm not seeing that car when I search AT.  Can you message me a link please?

 

Thanks!  

 

EDIT:  Just found it but it is manual and not PDK, unfortunately.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Alan W

[Neil_jdmr]

Sorry Alan just got back online, 

 

Ill be honest i hadn't noticed what transmission it was.

[Alan W]

11 minutes ago, Neil_jdmr said:

Sorry Alan just got back online, 

 

Ill be honest i hadn't noticed what transmission it was.

 

No problem Neil, you're keeping an eye out for me and I appreciate that!  👍

[Alan W]

Quiet in here!  

 

Does the market for Cayman tail off as we head towards winter as traditionally happens to the rest of the car market? I’ve certainly noticed sales slowing in the last few weeks, especially for PDK Cayman R’s with 3 or 4 being for sale for a month at least although these cars are somewhat overpriced in my opinion.

 

However, if anyone sees a sub 20k mile PDK Cayman 2.9 for sale in the coming months I would be grateful to know about it, thanks.  

Edited October 4, 2022 by Alan W

[MartinF6]

Supply tends to be lower over winter, too. But there will always be some cars.

[Aaron]

It's generally a summer car and is usually changed out during the spring/early summer.  That said, it depends on how you view it.  There are indeed more cars for sale in that period, but there are also more buyers. 

 

I've found the market to, over the years, maintain a reasonable equilibrium of price and month; as both supply and demand rise and fall in tandem.  You get the odd outlier that's over or under priced but they are always around.  Values have held really well the past ~5 years and took a huge pump over the pandemic.  Though that's hardly an exception to the state of the used car market.

[Julian987]

Soup of the day. Its a good 'un.

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210030375518

 

Sypder wheels, low miles, and buckets! Could do with lowering though I reckon.

Sorry Alan its manual though (otherwise would have emailed you privately).

 

 

[Alan W]

1 hour ago, Julian987 said:

Sorry Alan its manual though (otherwise would have emailed you privately).

 

 

 

No worries Julian and thanks for continuing to look out for me.  

[Julian987]

Soup of the day

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13884055

 

low miles - again Alan not PDK (otherwise would have emailed you direct). 

Its nice though.

[Alan W]

Evening Julian,

 

Neil_jdmr posted details of the same car above.  😉

 

It has been for sale for quite a while (a month at least) but does look a nice, well cared for example.   Just a pity it’s a Gen. 1 and manual.

[Julian987]

3 hours ago, Alan W said:

Evening Julian,

 

Neil_jdmr posted details of the same car above.  😉

 

It has been for sale for quite a while (a month at least) but does look a nice, well cared for example.   Just a pity it’s a Gen. 1 and manual.

 

Ah I didn't clock that it had been posted prior. Yep at first glance I thought 'this is it!' for you, then saw it was manual, drat.

 

[Gingybreadman]

On 04/10/2022 at 11:29, Alan W said:

Quiet in here!  

 

Does the market for Cayman tail off as we head towards winter as traditionally happens to the rest of the car market? I’ve certainly noticed sales slowing in the last few weeks, especially for PDK Cayman R’s with 3 or 4 being for sale for a month at least although these cars are somewhat overpriced in my opinion.

 

However, if anyone sees a sub 20k mile PDK Cayman 2.9 for sale in the coming months I would be grateful to know about it, thanks.  

Morning Alan,

 

Couple of nice looking options for you, both slightly over mileage the first more so than the second,

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14014008

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13023205

 

Dan