Andrea Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just few things Martin, I only happen to be a car designer, who works in the industry and could write a book about cars/industry. Plus I've run a small business making after market parts so you have no idea how many people enquire/modify their cars. If it was like you say then most aftermarket company out there wouldn't exist. It's a fact dude. That exhaust looks like any exhaust in UK. So it's absolutely fine. On the 987 platform it's true when you lower them you don't gain any negative camber at the front, just at the rear. Plus you run out of toe at the rear with stock toe arms. Really don't need you to tell me this. I've worked on the 987 platform for longer that you've been eating food. But to say that the H&R spring don't works it's just pure nonsense. People who put them on do it for look, people like me who do only trackdays wouldn't even consider lowering springs. Take it easy pal 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, MartinF6 said: As for the leather thing, I'd rather buy a clean car with no extended leather and fit that than this black car that for me would need a long list of works. Most of these cars have very few significant mods, so ruling out one like this car is not dramatically reducing my options. Once I got the spec list, I wasn't even remotely tempted. If leather wasn't a deal-breaker, though we were lead to believe it was, then I am amazed you haven't gone for some of the manual soup of the days we have discussed over the past month such as the two 911 Virgin ones or this one with the R Sports pack optioned https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13269850 the pics don't do it justice but that is a great one. Like the MJ Sportscar one with the R wing, but in manual. Between those 3 cars, if those aren't right then I feel you are analysing too much and purposely finding every reason not to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginginho Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Julian987 said: If leather wasn't a deal-breaker, though we were lead to believe it was, then I am amazed you haven't gone for some of the manual soup of the days we have discussed over the past month such as the two 911 Virgin ones or this one with the R Sports pack optioned https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13269850 the pics don't do it justice but that is a great one. Like the MJ Sportscar one with the R wing, but in manual. Between those 3 cars, if those aren't right then I feel you are analysing too much and purposely finding every reason not to buy. 7 minutes ago, Julian987 said: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13269850 the pics don't do it justice but that is a great one. I don't understand how you could consider listing your Porsche privately and only posting two pics 😖 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ginginho said: I don't understand how you could consider listing your Porsche privately and only posting two pics 😖 I agree, but their madness could be capitalised upon. I reckon in real life, what with the factory R kit then it is a peach hidden in a poor advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, MartinF6 said: It'll also be my only car, so having it off the road loads to address all the issues doesn't appeal much either. I think I'll leave it all there re this thread other than probably popping back and letting you know if I have bought one. I feel like it looks like I'm trying to talk the market down, and I don't mean to do that. Just can't not see that trade bids are dropping, very little is selling, a fair few advertised prices are being cut and the last two cars on CC went for what would be very cheap if the market is the same now as the end of last year. Personally I think even as an owner prices going up is a bad thing. It tends to make parts and labour more expensive and people use the cars less. Just look at air cooled 911s. Engine rebuilds are now about 3-4x the price they were 10 years ago for the same work (you can't put all that down to inflation, it's mostly because the cars are now megabucks and the clientele is less price sensitive) and people are too scared to use what has become a valuable asset. It sounds, to me, that you're overthinking and over analysing this decision. The chances of getting the right car, with the right spec, at the right price, with all of the other desireables is pretty much none. You have to be willing to compromise if you want to obtain a car in less than 12 months or potentially longer. Of course, it's still your money that you have to part with, and it's all about whether you think it's the right decision. But waiting for the stars to align will likely result in you never actually buying a 987, and it's a fantastic car whether it has the perfect options list or not. I'm absolutely not offended, by the way. No one is forcing me to read your posts/reply; not sure what I can say about others in the thread, mind you. Now get out there and buy one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc848 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 13 hours ago, Julian987 said: If leather wasn't a deal-breaker, though we were lead to believe it was, then I am amazed you haven't gone for some of the manual soup of the days we have discussed over the past month such as the two 911 Virgin ones or this one with the R Sports pack optioned https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13269850 the pics don't do it justice but that is a great one. Like the MJ Sportscar one with the R wing, but in manual. Between those 3 cars, if those aren't right then I feel you are analysing too much and purposely finding every reason not to buy. Isn't that one very expensive for a 2.9? Especially given Ash131's Silver Cayman has ext leather is a 3.4 and is priced the same. Having said that I agree with MartinF6 that the one on CC was one to avoid, given the mods it's likely to have been tracked heavily in the past. Not that there is anything wrong with a car that has been tracked but speaking to my friend's that do track their cars, a track day is like adding 5k road miles to a car in terms of wear and tear on suspension and brakes. There wasn't many invoices to suggest those were refreshed in the CC advert so can see why that would put people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash131 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 My 1st thought on that car was that it’s been modified for track use, I live a stones throw from Cadwell park and regularly go and watch some of the track evening events where the Cayman is a popular choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Soup of the day….with extended leather! …. lower it a bit, add some R style contrasting bits in black and it’s a winner. https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13322226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 soup of the day https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205045351110 looks mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtaite01 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Guards is rare on 987s (possibly with good reason 😅 ), but if it floats your boat then this one from Ashgood is (characteristically) good value: https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-Cayman-U3102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 hours ago, wtaite01 said: Guards is rare on 987s (possibly with good reason 😅 ), but if it floats your boat then this one from Ashgood is (characteristically) good value: https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-Cayman-U3102 A yes, I thought it had been posted but perhaps not. That is a great one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissya Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 hours ago, wtaite01 said: Guards is rare on 987s (possibly with good reason 😅 ), but if it floats your boat then this one from Ashgood is (characteristically) good value: https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-Cayman-U3102 Great value, barely more than I paid for a 2.9 last March, albeit more miles but should be good for another 100k on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Soup of the day https://www.exoprestige.co.uk/used-cars/porsche-cayman-3-4-987-s-pdk-2dr-chesham-202205035294427 very interesting colour and the spec is through the roof….every lower panel button is optioned bar one….which got me thinking is there such a spec m/configuration which would fill that entire strip of buttons with no blanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and.rs1800 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 05/05/2022 at 15:04, wtaite01 said: Guards is rare on 987s (possibly with good reason 😅 ), but if it floats your boat then this one from Ashgood is (characteristically) good value: https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-Cayman-U3102 Why “possibly with good reason” is guards red rare on a 987? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Soup of the day https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13348540 whats not to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 NOT soup of the day https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205085472955 Seems expensive does it not for a Cat D. I enquired and it was rear wing damage, one large panel with the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, Julian987 said: NOT soup of the day https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205085472955 Seems expensive does it not for a Cat D. I enquired and it was rear wing damage, one large panel with the roof. Notice the front bumper where it meets the wing (passenger side) 😅 Not only expensive but what's with those 20" 981 wheels and the stance of Nissan Prius? Why do people insist on this terrible choices? (nope I don't care about opinions, it's just wrong lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian987 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Andrea said: Notice the front bumper where it meets the wing (passenger side) 😅 Not only expensive but what's with those 20" 981 wheels and the stance of Nissan Prius? Why do people insist on this terrible choices? (nope I don't care about opinions, it's just wrong lol) ah yes, well observed…the gap on the bonnet to front bumper on the passenger side. How odd…must be as a result of the shunt/damage it took on the rear end yep? Agree on those wheels! Edited May 9, 2022 by Julian987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginginho Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Julian987 said: NOT soup of the day https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205085472955 Seems expensive does it not for a Cat D. I enquired and it was rear wing damage, one large panel with the roof. It has a Halfords service stamp??? 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Ginginho said: It has a Halfords service stamp??? 🤮 Yeah and that! To be honest an oil change is something so easy to perform but equally why buy a Porsche and then having serviced it at Halfords?! Oh man... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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