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Hi I am currently stranded in Crete ( air traffic strike so must endure 5 star spa Hotel for 2 extra days .....)

I love my Cayman but like a lot of members think Porsche held back so...

project 360 BHp is my target , this fits nicely with what I coveted years ago i.e. GT3 mk1 1350 kg and 360 BHP right ,

my 987.2 3.4 s weighs the same but currently 320 BHP from its DFI flat six,

plan is..

1) IPD plenum with GT3 82 mm throttle bodies

2) after market catback  sports exhaust ( would like advice here guys Remus Cargraphic Milltek Fabspeed ....???)

3) Proffesional Remap by somebody who knows what they are doing (Ninemeister have recommended a guy)

 

will this his give me the magic number ?

opinions please

thanks

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Should be able to get there or close to it.  Think about headers and sports cats too.  I'd not bother with the back box upgrade as it won't change the power output but will cost.  Go with the headers, cats and Carnewal converted rear exhaust.  

 

Who did Ninemeister recommend?

 

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ninemeister recommend a chap called Wayne ,this is all I know as I have,t spoken to him.

However Ninemeister are right at the top in terms of independent Porsche specialists so would suggest he,s proven.

thanks for your advice

martin

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that'll be Wayne Schofield. He has a tuning business next to the old Ninemeister premises in Warrington Cheshire and used to do a lot of Porsche work with them as well as tuning for race teams etc.

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I like the sound of this. You do it and I will maybe follow ?

How much do you think that will cost though. I'm guessing it's a lot of money for just 40bhp.......

Kai

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Hi Astonmartin

 

did you go through with this in the end?

I'm looking into options now myself and it would so much better if I know a member has already done it ....

 

my thoughts are IPD + 82mm intake + exhaust manifolds + tuning. 

 

I'm thinking (hoping) £1,500 ish ....

 

Kai

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On 06/01/2017 at 14:38, Kai said:

Hi Astonmartin

 

did you go through with this in the end?

I'm looking into options now myself and it would so much better if I know a member has already done it ....

 

my thoughts are IPD + 82mm intake + exhaust manifolds + tuning. 

 

I'm thinking (hoping) £1,500 ish ....

 

Kai

You will be looking at £900 for the IPD inlet & gt3 throttle alone if paying retail, then say £60 for a decent air filter, £700+ for manifolds, £600+ for an exhaust then £500+ for a remap. 

 

I've got it all bar the remap on my S and I have to say if the manifolds & exhaust weren't already on the car when I got it then I wouldnt have gone through with the rest of it, it's not worth the investment for the gains the money would be better spent on a LSD.

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Thanks GTP

 

i have been wondering if it is really worth the money too. Coming from turbo cars where extra power is just a chip tune away. I think I'll look to the suspension side of things first then. 

 

Kai 

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No problem Kai, I dont think there are many on here with all the bits but someone else may have a different opinion.

 

I am kind of in the same boat as you, my previous job (which I still get dragged into!) was building Japanese tuned cars- Evo's, Supra's, GTO's etc and going from those cars where 4-800bhp with matching or higher torque is the norm, it's a shock when you jump in the cayman as it feels so slow in comparison. 

 

I've just got used to the fact that it isn't that type of car, most of the time I don't want it to be that kind of car, I purchased it for response, driving thrills and build quality more then out & out power and grip.

However, it doesn't stop me messing with it though even though I know it's kind of a waste of money:4fvgdaq_th:xD

 

Pete

 

 

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the mods are well worth it, to fit manifolds and bigger TB and not do a remap was a daft idea.

 

ALso the car would not run right and maybe throw a cel.

 

a 987.2 car with 360/370 bhp is a great set of mods.

A good manifold is £3k though so no idea what you guys are fitting !

I have a cargraphic on mine. 

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On 16/01/2017 at 12:41, PorscheGT4 said:

the mods are well worth it, to fit manifolds and bigger TB and not do a remap was a daft idea.

 

ALso the car would not run right and maybe throw a cel.

It's not a daft idea at all it just means that you won't get all that you can out of the set up, the car has more then enough compensation in the tables to correct for the mods. I've done a tad over 5000 miles with no running issues or Cels, if it had getting the car mapped would have more of a priority!xD

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you stated "it's not worth the investment for the gains"

 

where if you have a map it is worth it.

 

you have more air coming in so need to fuel it right, you have 80% of the kit for say 10bhp gain !

a remap would net you circa 345bhp now ! where you prob only  have 310 !

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I have a 3.4 DFI Cayman and it is true that they hold back when the car is standard. 

 

I have fitted a full valved Cargraphic System with manifolds and 200 cell cats.  I have the IPD plenum and GT3 throttle body.  I also have a BMC filter with the desnorkel mod.

 

Really brings the car alive and there is a definite HP gain.  Also the engine is so much smoother and happier with all the bottlenecks removed.   The main thing is to get rid of the std cats in the exhaust manifold.  In the DFI motor there are 4 of them.....2 in each manifold.

 

Question is now.....who do I use for the remap?   The best option is Ehresmann tuning in Germany who can do a full custom remap on a rolling road but that's circa £2k.  Looking for an alternative.

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10 hours ago, jmcc42uk said:

Question is now.....who do I use for the remap?   The best option is Ehresmann tuning in Germany who can do a full custom remap on a rolling road but that's circa £2k.  Looking for an alternative.

 

Have a word with @GTP - he was looking into options a while ago I seem to recall, we spoke to OpenFlash about their product too.  

 

Edit: just realised Pete is all over this thread :4fvgdaq_th:

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11 hours ago, jmcc42uk said:

I have a 3.4 DFI Cayman and it is true that they hold back when the car is standard. 

 

I have fitted a full valved Cargraphic System with manifolds and 200 cell cats.  I have the IPD plenum and GT3 throttle body.  I also have a BMC filter with the desnorkel mod.

 

Really brings the car alive and there is a definite HP gain.  Also the engine is so much smoother and happier with all the bottlenecks removed.   The main thing is to get rid of the std cats in the exhaust manifold.  In the DFI motor there are 4 of them.....2 in each manifold.

 

Question is now.....who do I use for the remap?   The best option is Ehresmann tuning in Germany who can do a full custom remap on a rolling road but that's circa £2k.  Looking for an alternative.

Softronic have a map which would work with those mods, and you do it yourself keeping your stock map untouched, ie it's a full remap with a full file.  tried and tested on >100's cars and was about £800.  or have a full custom tune on a RR with Ehresmann and take a trip over there.

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I won't be removing the 200 cell cats as they are part of the Cargraphic system.  They are HJS hi flow race cats to they do not harm performance too much.  Ehresmann say it's possible to get 370 bhp if mapped on V power and with catless headers and about 360 with 200 cell cats.

 

Catless headers are way too lound though and the drone is bad.

 

Softronic is good but it's not a live map like Ehresmann.....a live mapping session on a rolling road tailored to your exact car will always be better.  

 

As you can tell I'm swaying towards Ehresmann !

 

 

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