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2.7 Base: Remap Vs Sprinter Booster Vs Do Nothing ?

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22 hours ago, sevenfourate said:

 

Fully believe you. Always get talked about on 'high performance' car forums. And i've hardly read a bad review anywhere; or heard about anyone who's disliked them.

 

I got talking to my Dad about them. He's recently bought an AMG400 Merc [3.5L V6 Twin Turbo with 333bhp). He was toying with the idea of a remap to 400bhp. But decided to try a Sprint Booster first. 4 or 5 days in with it fitted and he's smitten. So much so - he's pretty much decided he can't / won't be bothering with a remap now. As for real-World on the road driving below the ton mark it's done all he wanted. He say's he didn't even realise it was 'laggy' - until he fitted the Sprint Booster. And now there's no going back !

 

****Am i correct in thinking you can fit it [V3 version], set it up via the lead / controller - then once you've found an all-around setting you're happy with; remove the lead and it will hold that setting ?

 

 

I don't have one, but that's my understanding. Plug and play. Really tempted to get one based on reviews! 

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3 hours ago, Ben said:

I don't have one, but that's my understanding. Plug and play. Really tempted to get one based on reviews! 

 

There's no doubt they are plug and play. My 76 year old Dad fitted his in "5 minutes" he said ! And having driven it today the difference / response with one fitted is pretty large. And easily noticeable switching modes / settings on the move. I'm not sure there's better bang-for-your-buck out there anywhere........

 

What i was questioning; and what i would be looking for is a completely invisible install. And from looking on the website it seems you you can install the actual unit under the throttle pedal.....set it up to your liking via the controller.....then unplug the controller (Leaving nothing in view at all) - and the system remembers and stays in the last setting. I quote:

 

"The compact size allows the driver to place the selector switch anywhere on the dashboard with the use of the double sided tape.

 

Sprint Booster also offers the option to the driver to completely remove the switch from the device. In this case the device will work with the last settings stored in memory. For example , if the driver disconnects the selector switch while in SPORT-5 (SPORT mode- Acceleration program 5) , the device will keep as default the program SPORT-5."

 

 

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Do these make the car difficult to drive in traffic? Surely the throttle is over sensitive? Even turning sport mode on in mine makes it pretty grim in traffic 

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6 hours ago, sevenfourate said:

 

There's no doubt they are plug and play. My 76 year old Dad fitted his in "5 minutes" he said ! And having driven it today the difference / response with one fitted is pretty large. And easily noticeable switching modes / settings on the move. I'm not sure there's better bang-for-your-buck out there anywhere........

 

What i was questioning; and what i would be looking for is a completely invisible install. And from looking on the website it seems you you can install the actual unit under the throttle pedal.....set it up to your liking via the controller.....then unplug the controller (Leaving nothing in view at all) - and the system remembers and stays in the last setting. I quote:

 

"The compact size allows the driver to place the selector switch anywhere on the dashboard with the use of the double sided tape.

 

Sprint Booster also offers the option to the driver to completely remove the switch from the device. In this case the device will work with the last settings stored in memory. For example , if the driver disconnects the selector switch while in SPORT-5 (SPORT mode- Acceleration program 5) , the device will keep as default the program SPORT-5."

 

 


It does exactly as they say, yes.  You can run the switch connected along the top of the pedal box, hidden underneath the centre console and mount the switch in your ash tray, hidden from view but easily accessible.  

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Thanks for all your thoughts and insight guys. 
 

Remap booked. May still add a Sprint Booster later depending on....

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Isn;t Sprint booster the equivalent of Sports Mode?

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Very interesting video about Sprint-Booster.

 

Especially for the doubters........

 

 

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Some great info and points.....

 

On the flip-side: to its detriment - a map isn’t easily / quickly installed, adjusted on the go (In terms of throttle response) for different situations / applications or removed upon sale by the masses. Sprint booster is. 

 

And to be fair -  these days you can get a decent remap for not that much more than the cost of a Sprint Booster. My local, knowledgeable and hugely experienced local Porsche specialist (Cypress Auto Services In Lowestoft) are £250 all in for a quality remap.  So unless you insist on using some fashionable boutique source for your map it is absolutely compatible price-wise per-se. 
 

Also; many many enthusiasts across forums for different car brands often do a remap and have a SB fitted. It doesn’t necessarily seem to have to be about making a choice between the two.....

 

Others say a remap and a SB shouldn’t be compared. Pays your money and takes your choice . Or not as the case may be 🙂


 

 

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I flashed my Softronic map with a USB cable and my Surface.  I can easily flash the original map and I'm back to square one...  It's easily reversible and physically invisible (logically is a different story).

 

I already had Sport Chrono but didn't get the map for throttle response, anyway.  Just demonstrating that reversion is easily accomplished provided you choose a map that does so.

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On 28/11/2019 at 13:38, sevenfourate said:

Some great info and points.....

 

On the flip-side: to its detriment - a map isn’t easily / quickly installed, adjusted on the go (In terms of throttle response) for different situations / applications or removed upon sale by the masses. Sprint booster is. 

 

And to be fair -  these days you can get a decent remap for not that much more than the cost of a Sprint Booster. My local, knowledgeable and hugely experienced local Porsche specialist (Cypress Auto Services In Lowestoft) are £250 all in for a quality remap.  So unless you insist on using some fashionable boutique source for your map it is absolutely compatible price-wise per-se. 
 

Also; many many enthusiasts across forums for different car brands often do a remap and have a SB fitted. It doesn’t necessarily seem to have to be about making a choice between the two.....

 

Others say a remap and a SB shouldn’t be compared. Pays your money and takes your choice . Or not as the case may be 🙂


 

 

Would be interested to know where you sourced your Sprint Booster from Syer, and what overall impact it has on the driving experience.  Its definitely something on my Christmas wish list!

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50 minutes ago, Ben said:

Would be interested to know where you sourced your Sprint Booster from Syer, and what overall impact it has on the driving experience.  Its definitely something on my Christmas wish list!


eBay Ben. £188 from Germany inc postage. Which is where they are made.......(My Dads took 3 days to arrive a few weeks ago for reference).

 

My Dads just had a 330bhp E400 Merc AMG mapped to just over 400bhp and 600nm of torque. And still thinks the Sprint Booster he fitted just before the remap has made as much real World difference / given him as much pleasure as the remap. The more in depth info you read about them - the better it gets imo.

 

He leaves his in Sport 5 mode generally - which he says sharpens response no end - but isn’t ‘lethal’ like any Race mode settings can be. Especially at low speeds / around town etc.

 

He is convinced it will now be the Coup de Grace for my car. And had been nudging me to purchase for a while.

 

Im back in the U.K. on Sun the 8th. Will be fitting / testing right away and will of course report back honestly then !

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Without wishing to be a Debbie downer, the following article is worth a read... 

 

https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/sprint-booster-is-it-worth-it/

 

My dad is an electronics engineer and has designed stuff for Bentley (amongst others) and he also confirmed what was said. 

 

I think the key part is the paragraph towards the end though, if you like it and it makes the car more fun then it's worth the outlay

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On 29/11/2019 at 18:47, Lennym1984 said:

Without wishing to be a Debbie downer, the following article is worth a read... 

 

https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/sprint-booster-is-it-worth-it/

 

My dad is an electronics engineer and has designed stuff for Bentley (amongst others) and he also confirmed what was said. 

 

I think the key part is the paragraph towards the end though, if you like it and it makes the car more fun then it's worth the outlay

 

 

I've always felt that the throttle response in the Cayman had some built in latency so am willing to give the SprintBooster a go - not expecting any kind of power gains but just a more immediate response to pressure on the loud peddle.  More the kind of response you would get from a mechanical throttle control rather than drive by wire.  

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12 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

 

I've always felt that the throttle response in the Cayman had some built in latency so am willing to give the SprintBooster a go - not expecting any kind of power gains but just a more immediate response to pressure on the loud peddle.  More the kind of response you would get from a mechanical throttle control rather than drive by wire.  


Cayman throttle response: particularly manually rev-matching on way down the box is significantly more responsive than my last fly by wire sports hot hatch. For reference. I don’t think it’s ‘awful’ by any means. But like you Ben: would love to sharpen up a bit.

 

And when I’m back off Holiday I’ll properly take in Lenny’s linked article (Thankyou - all points for and against interesting !)).

 

For the moment though I’ve voted with my own feet and will come up with my own conclusions. I never have any allegiance to any of these ‘performance’ type add-ons. And if I feel it doesn’t improve for me I’ll remove it instantly. Easy as that...
 

Back Sunday. Hoping to fit and test same afternoon 😉

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